Which 6.5" Component Set

[macq32 10+ year member]

Hey guys,

We've all seen threads of somone asking "What are the best 6.5's, oh and they cant be more than 150" which is a ****ing joke, I know. So I'm going to do my best describing what sounds I'm looking for and how I like my current 6.5's so we have something to go off of.

I threw Infinity's Kappa 60.7cs (90rms @ 2ohm) along with Kappa 693.7's (110rms @ 2ohm) and powered them with a Reference 475a Amplifier. I've heard a lot of people say there Kappa component tweeters were too harsh and the midbass was sub par. Well honestly I never really agreed to that, I like the tweeters although I will admit they do get a bit harsh at extreme volumes, but not enough for me to dislike them. As for the Midbass... since I broke them in I thought it was awesome for a 6.5" woofer. I installed Dynamat/RAAMat HEAVILY in my doors over the weekend and also replaced my Reference amp with a Rockford Fosgate 25 to Life Power 1000 5 Channel Amplifier, since the addition of the new much more powerful amp and the Dyna/RAAMat the bass is REMARKABLE IMO (Much better than I would expect from a 6.5). So I really don't get all the complaints, another thing I love is how "punchy" the woofers are, the response seems pretty powerful and precise.

The thing is, I've noticed minor vibrations when playing my music fairly loud, I would guess 80watts or so and higher. I know its the speaker itself and not metal to metal vibration as I have deadened the shit out of my doors and the speaker cutout. On top of that I have noticed that on "punchy hits" as I would describe them, the speakers almost sound like they are tearing - for lack of a better word (the sound is quick and occurs during the initial hit). So I'm assuming my speakers are about to blow or have blown. Although I've blown factory speakers before and home stereo speakers before and it sounded nothing like this.

Assuming the speaker is going (if I'm wrong in my assumption someone please tell me!) I have started looking around for new components. I'm so impressed with my Kappa 60.7s that I'm not entirely against just picking up a new pair, but at the same time I like to adventure and find something new (and hopefully even better). I love the midbass those things put out for me, but again if it can be better ILL TAKE IT! And I wasn't opposed to the tweeter (aluminum) but I wouldn't mind experimenting with something I little softer. And it would be a plus if my Component Set could handle 100rms at least, although not mandatory.

The Fosgate Amp is capable of

100w x4 @ 4ohm or

155w x4 @ 2ohm and

475w x1 @ 3ohm

Since I like my music as loud and distortion free as possible I'd like to keep my components close to or equal to my 693.7's (110rms @ 2ohms).

I have researched a number of Sets, some much more expensive than others that I think are worth looking into and would love some feedback from people who have had experience with some of these.

Option number 1: Infinity Kappa 60.7cs ($130)

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=15366

My current speakers Dome Aluminum Tweets, 90rms @ 2ohm and 95dB

Option number 2: Infinity Kappa Perfect 6.1 ($210)

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_2742_Infinity+Perfect+6.1.html

I've heard great things about these, especially for the price

Aluminum Tweets, 100rms @ 3ohms and 90dB

(I'm assuming my amp would handle about 120w @ 3ohms)

Option number 3: Boston Acoustics Pro60 (Maybe 99gtxgolfer's for $160, then again they may be defective, otherwise ($250)

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=19214

Allow Dome Tweeter, 125rms @ 3ohm and 90dB

Option number 4: Alpine SPX-17PRO ($325)

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_10648_Alpine+SPX-17PRO.html

100rms @ 4ohms and 90dB

Option number 5: Kicker RS65.2 ($375)

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_3603_Kicker+RS65.2.html

Dome Teteron Tweeters, 100rms @ 4ohm and 87dB

Option number 6: JL Audio ZR650-CSi ($450)

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_7610_JL+Audio+ZR650-CSi.html

Dome Aluminum Tweeter, 175rms @ 4 ohm and 89.5dB (would probably be an injustice to only power 100watts)

Option number 7: Polk Audio SR6500 ($475)

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_6851_Polk+Audio+SR6500.html?utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=froogle

125rms @ 4ohm and 90dB

Option number 8: DLS Ultimate Iridium 6.2i ($500)

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_10486_DLS+Ultimate+Iridium+6.2i.html

Dome Silk Tweeters, 100rms @ 4ohm and 91dB

Option number 9: Boston Acoustics SPZ60 ($575)

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_10212_Boston+Acoustics+SPZ60.html

Dome Aluminum Adjustable Tweeters, 150rms @ 3ohm and 90dB

Option number 10: Focal 165 K2P ($580)

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_1690_Focal+165+K2P.html

Dome Tioxid Tweeters, 100rms @ 4ohm and 92.5dB

Right now the Kappa Perfects and Boston Pro60's have really peaked my interest.

I would probably likely keep it under $350 or so, but I'm interested in all of the options listed above so any feedback would be great. Although I'm likely to go with options 1-5. Also any new suggestions would be much appreciated.

Also, this will not be my primary source of bass. I'm having a friend build a MDF box for my JL 13tw5 shallow mount. (If that effects the feedback at all)

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[buggsson 10+ year member]

Talking about distortion, shouldn't that make you want to drive them on 4 ohm rather than 2?

 

[GearGuy2001 10+ year member]

You forgot

Image Dynamics CTX65CS

and

Hertz HSK165

 

[bamaboy 5,000+ posts]

i would first hand go ahead and throw the infinity ones out, cant stand them

also im about to be selling my pro60s out of my truck, should have them out in the next few days, they are an excellent speaker, just need a good bit of power, can get real loud, so they will probably be for sale

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

What is the deal with all the interest in Infinity lately? Personally,I wojuld give those Alpines a try.

 

[R/T Pimp 10+ year member]

You might want to consider the new PVI series of MB Quart with there new "widespread" design tweeter. It is amazing they sound a lot like horns. They play down to about 1200, and the midbass is incredible out of them. They are very smooth. Many people had concerns on there harshness, but these new tweeters are incredible. Anyway consider them. I have a few sets instock so pm me if you are interested to see what I can do on pricing.

 

[IDSkoT 5,000+ posts]

You forgot
Image Dynamics CTX65CS

and

Hertz HSK165

I'm a Hertz fanboi.

My ESK165's KILLLL.

 

[bamaboy 5,000+ posts]

i would third the hertz, except for the fact i need to sell my Pro60s

MLK2's going in FTMFW

idskot, if you ever get a chance, upgrade to the HSK's, the sound alot better than the E series, but the E's still sound hella good, we have all of them at the shop on display, you can just go through them all, sound like pure secs...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/redface.gif.62fdbfe1a101588a808c4cff71bcb942.gif

 

[macq32 10+ year member]

Thanks guys! I was directed to HSK's or MLK's by another member a few minutes ago. They both look great and I hear great stuff about Hertz, unfortunately I've never heard them myself:-/. The HSKs look to be a pretty **** good option for the price though, Pro60s also look to be a front runner so let me know when you are getting rid of those. I may be interested depending on pricing, although I've read a few reviews that they don't hold up while being powered heavily (dont know exactly what the hell that means though). The Image Dynamics seem to match what I'm looking for as well (high efficiency, 100 rms, silk dome...)and for only $180! No experiences with MB Quart at all but I was probably looking for something higher than 70rms and 87dB.

I appreciate all the suggestions. Doesn't seem like anyone thinks the Perfects are a good idea...

How would the Pro60's and Image Dynamics compare to the HSK's? I have not heard any of the three what are the audible differences between the three? (especially at higher volumes which is where the majority of my listening will be done)

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_2886_Boston+Acoustics+PRO60.html

The Pro's have a good efficiency at 90dB, I'd be able to power the 125rms @ 3ohm, and have a M Type Alloy Tweeter (I have no idea how that sounds, could someone compare them to something for me?)

http://www.alibaba.com/product-tp/101012445/Hertz_Hsk_165_2_Way_Component.html

The HSK's have a pretty equal efficiency at 91dB, I would power them 100watts @ 4ohm(capable of 125rms), and has neodymium tweeters.

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=6201

The Image Dynamics have an even higher efficiency at 93dB, can hit as low as 58hz (opposed to the 50hz of the other 2). I would be able to power the full 100rms @ 4ohm, and have silk dome tweeters.

Overall these all look like they meet what I might be looking for, and all look like they would fit pretty easily in my doors. Any information to help sway my decision would be awesome.

 

[nukeitall 10+ year member]

bump a a fellow charleston fellow! im looking to get some pro 60's maybe but now sure if the sax 100.4 will bridge to them. But moren than likely gonna go active on my 9887 and sax 100.4 with some seas neo aluminum tweets, and havent decided on a mid yet. maybe a 720prs mids, or rainbow slc/cmx mids. but for u my vote ggoes to the pro 60's or the hertz hsk's, those are the ones i would personally buy.

 

[DejaWiz 5,000+ posts]

Also go check out the Pioneer TS-C720PRS.

 

[budahbuddy803 10+ year member]

i've got some CDT CL61A/TW24 w/crossovers and grills for 100+original shipping. It couldnt cost too much to ship since you are near by.

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

i've got some CDT CL61A/TW24 w/crossovers and grills for 100+original shipping. It couldnt cost too much to ship since you are near by.

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[macq32 10+ year member]

i've got some CDT CL61A/TW24 w/crossovers and grills for 100+original shipping. It couldnt cost too much to ship since you are near by.

appreciate the offer, as of right now im probably leaning towards HSK165, Boston Pro60 and the Image Dynamics. (The Kappa Perfects are still teasing me in the back of my head)

 

[bamaboy 5,000+ posts]

Pro's naturally have a little brighter sound, its not bad like some others, some people like more tweeter than others, u can easily fix it, via the xover or EQ, also if you have 4 ch u can bi amp them and get alot of control over the sound

Hertz on the other hand sound awesome too, not too many places to buy them on the intranets, and dealers arnt able to ship product, retail on HSK is like 380 i think

i would drop the kappa's oout of you list

never used the ID's