Wheres the Eminence guys...?

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

still gonna be loud as piss.
and dont come back and say its gonna sound like shit cuase the above sentence didnt say "its gonna have good SQ"

it's gonna sound like piss //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[T3mpest 10+ year member]

still gonna be loud as piss.
and dont come back and say its gonna sound like shit cuase the above sentence didnt say "its gonna have good SQ"

loud as piss, but not a hell of alot louder than a properly done car could be, with ALOT less equipment that sounds better to boot. Why go for just being loud and sounding shitty (even you've said it sounds "good enough for me", but never it sounded "great") when you can have a system that will get 90% of the volume, with tonal accuracy, across ALL frequencies?

People using single 12's can put out 150s whereas multiple sub setups can hit 140's, it's all in the install. Your speakers aren't going to be in optimal enclosure, nor will they be crossed over properly. You're comromising your overall install and hoping sheer brute force will give you the volume you want. It probably will, but it's sure as heck not the best way to go about it.

 

[Schuey2002 10+ year member]

loud as piss, but not a hell of alot louder than a properly done car could be, with ALOT less equipment that sounds better to boot. Why go for just being loud and sounding shitty (even you've said it sounds "good enough for me", but never it sounded "great") when you can have a system that will get 90% of the volume, with tonal accuracy, across ALL frequencies?
People using single 12's can put out 150s whereas multiple sub setups can hit 140's, it's all in the install. Your speakers aren't going to be in optimal enclosure, nor will they be crossed over properly. You're comromising your overall install and hoping sheer brute force will give you the volume you want. It probably will, but it's sure as heck not the best way to go about it.

Maybe he wants other people outside of his ride to enjoy the same loud shitty sound as he is?

 

[Eugenics 5,000+ posts]

Why are you running tweets and horns?

 

[T3mpest 10+ year member]

Why are you running tweets and horns?

he's only using his horns for shows apparently. His tweets are supposed to be horn loaded anyway, 105db effecient my ***! Like I said, combine their true effeciency with their off axis response and the LOADS of cancellation he's getting at those higher frequencies, I really doubt he'd average that much higher than my car from 2k-20k. Maybe lower than that, my phl's are no slouches either.

 

[Schuey2002 10+ year member]

horns will be out back, tweets will be up front. wont be played at the same time //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

And why are they in back? For when you have the tailgate open?

*Post above answered this one..

 

[T3mpest 10+ year member]

Either my internets not working or mr eminence has me ignored, I see your quote, but not post it came from....//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[Eugenics 5,000+ posts]

he's only using his horns for shows apparently. His tweets are supposed to be horn loaded anyway, 105db effecient my ***! Like I said, combine their true effeciency with their off axis response and the LOADS of cancellation he's getting at those higher frequencies, I really doubt he'd average that much higher than my car from 2k-20k. Maybe lower than that, my phl's are no slouches either.

That does not seem like the brightest of idea's. Why go through all the trouble of building horn enclosures and mounting them if you're not concerned with SQ in the first place. Especially when you already have horns.

By that rational, he might as well just purchase a mass of 30 dollar subs. I mean, eventually with enough of them and enough power it will be decently loud.

 

[Eugenics 5,000+ posts]

You know, i could hire a fleet of children to mow my lawn. But that doesn't mean that i should. One will do the job quite fine.

 

[T3mpest 10+ year member]

That does not seem like the brightest of idea's. Why go through all the trouble of building horn enclosures and mounting them if you're not concerned with SQ in the first place. Especially when you already have horns.
By that rational, he might as well just purchase a mass of 30 dollar subs. I mean, eventually with enough of them and enough power it will be decently loud.

isn't that basically what he's doing, buying loads of cheap equipment and then using it improperly? Who said anything about ANYTHING that he's doing is the "brightest of ideas"?

 

[Schuey2002 10+ year member]

Either my internets not working or mr eminence has me ignored, I see your quote, but not post it came from....//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

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[Platestacker45 10+ year member]

loud as piss, but not a hell of alot louder than a properly done car could be, with ALOT less equipment that sounds better to boot. Why go for just being loud and sounding shitty (even you've said it sounds "good enough for me", but never it sounded "great") when you can have a system that will get 90% of the volume, with tonal accuracy, across ALL frequencies?
People using single 12's can put out 150s whereas multiple sub setups can hit 140's, it's all in the install. Your speakers aren't going to be in optimal enclosure, nor will they be crossed over properly. You're comromising your overall install and hoping sheer brute force will give you the volume you want. It probably will, but it's sure as heck not the best way to go about it.

As said a million times... You will not get louder with less equipment. No components will match the output of these drivers. Period. Many shows car down south are loaded to the brim with Eminence. They sound great to me and everyone at the show. I've had nothing but good comments to those have sat in my truck, including many pro installers. Some drivers will sound better, true. None will get louder (for the price). And like I've said, I've never met a person at a show that says they sound like crap.

 

[Eugenics 5,000+ posts]

As said a million times... You will not get louder with less equipment. No components will match the output of these drivers. Period. Many shows car down south are loaded to the brim with Eminence. They sound great to me and everyone at the show. I've had nothing but good comments to those have sat in my truck, including many pro installers. Some drivers will sound better, true. None will get louder (for the price). And like I've said, I've never met a person at a show that says they sound like crap.

I'm assuming that the people who associate with you are just as stupid themselves. And now-a-days everyones a 'pro' installer.

 

[pwnt by pat 10+ year member]

Of course nobody is going to object when you've only been exposed to the same crap...

 

[T3mpest 10+ year member]

As said a million times... You will not get louder with less equipment. No components will match the output of these drivers. Period. Many shows car down south are loaded to the brim with Eminence. They sound great to me and everyone at the show. I've had nothing but good comments to those have sat in my truck, including many pro installers. Some drivers will sound better, true. None will get louder (for the price). And like I've said, I've never met a person at a show that says they sound like crap.

Who said ANYTHING about components. I'm talking 112db effeicent horns with 100 effecient midranges (8's) and midbasses with 500 watts a peice on them, 3-way ACTIVE fronstage, lotsa power. That's quite bit different. MUCH better drivers than eminence, properly installed, all on axis, little to no cancellation. Comparing that to cheap drivers many of which are off axis, in improper airspaces, etc, and yeah, I can get darn near or as loud with less. I'd put 100 bucks a system as described above would be within 3db's of yours 2k-20k. Not all high effeciency drivers sound like crap, eminence does though...........

Honestly, most people think AB's in ported boxes with stock speakers sounds "awesome". Try playing something other than rap or poorly recorded music. I doubt you've got a stage out on the hood with width to your pillars, I'd bet you have no sounstage at all. Frankly, you can't avoid cancellation with that many drivers, so I wont' even discuss tonality.