When are these Cigarette companys gonna shut down?

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

Because it is so important, lol!

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

holy old thread

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

Interesting...

Bumpzilla I guess...

 

[uPsDdOWN 10+ year member]

Did you know that insanely loud car audio can cause deafness. Something to think about before you start toting on others liberties.

BS, the socialized health care that most people who advocate the same type of control you advocate are statistically for, will have to pay for your (our) dirty little car audio habit. Not to mention the noise pollution. How about if some brilliant minds like yours got together and made some laws that make sense to them.
Like:

1. You can no longer modify the OEM sound system in your car, or if you do, we will heavily tax it.

2. Same as above for your car's drive train (I think Cali has this).

When you start letting the government make rules that affect your liberty, you have no control over where it will stop. There's not going to be some fail safe that says, wait a minute, Eugenics says that social trend is okay.

why not...

You, sir, seem to be on a good point here.

Loud, bass heavy music is not environmentally controllable, hence it is an invasion of ones privacy when you are, say, at a stop light in heavy traffic. While it is NOT illegal to have an "excessive stereo," many groups, including law enforcement in some cities, have concluded that this is noise pollution and they have enacted laws to prevent you and I from causing undo damage to our hearing. --not to mention other medically claimed findings of other physical damage to your body.

Smoking in your car, at the same stoplight, you usually have a window down to prevent "Hotboxing" it. Your smoke freely pollutes the air around your vehicle, including offending my desire to breathe clean air. (or should I say CO2 (?) Laden) State officials have also recognized this form of pollution in public areas (restaurants for example) and make you, the smoker, go outside and stand in front of the door, which I have to inhale your smoke when I try and exit the building. I have not ever chosen to kill myself by inhaling tar, nicotine, and other TOXIC chemicals into my body. But you are forcing me to by partaking in your habit in areas I may populate.

While car audio and smoking can respectively be considered free will, what gives either party the right to disturb the others "Privacy."

we, as a society, have progressively lost respect for one another.

/soapboxing

 

[BoomBoomBoy 10+ year member]

I like pepperoni pizza

 

[galacticmonkey 5,000+ posts]

If you dont want to smoke, then dont do it.

I dont smoke... I think its stupid. But who cares if other people want to?

 

[Ali1 10+ year member]

why would they? There's three different labels on a single box of newports that say "CAUTION".

If these people choose to ignore these messages and walk around with a sign on their forehead "I'm a fvcktard, looking forward to cancer", then why not? Newports in Chicago just rose to $8.75/pack including tax. Just last summer, of 07, they were 5.90/pack including tax. Why would they decrease the price? They know these fvcktards will continue to complain, yet throw down that $10 bill on the counter and say " give me it"!!!!!!

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

why not...
You, sir, seem to be on a good point here.

Loud, bass heavy music is not environmentally controllable, hence it is an invasion of ones privacy when you are, say, at a stop light in heavy traffic. While it is NOT illegal to have an "excessive stereo," many groups, including law enforcement in some cities, have concluded that this is noise pollution and they have enacted laws to prevent you and I from causing undo damage to our hearing. --not to mention other medically claimed findings of other physical damage to your body.

Smoking in your car, at the same stoplight, you usually have a window down to prevent "Hotboxing" it. Your smoke freely pollutes the air around your vehicle, including offending my desire to breathe clean air. (or should I say CO2 (?) Laden) State officials have also recognized this form of pollution in public areas (restaurants for example) and make you, the smoker, go outside and stand in front of the door, which I have to inhale your smoke when I try and exit the building. I have not ever chosen to kill myself by inhaling tar, nicotine, and other TOXIC chemicals into my body. But you are forcing me to by partaking in your habit in areas I may populate.

While car audio and smoking can respectively be considered free will, what gives either party the right to disturb the others "Privacy."

we, as a society, have progressively lost respect for one another.

/soapboxing

I bet the pollution emitting from your tailpipe is greater than the emissions of a cigarette, given an equal amount of space for it to disappate.