Alright im kinda new to car audio. Im more of a computer builder/computer hardware geek myself. In forums like that there is plenty of compition, much like what you guys have going on with your SPL comps. The diffrence is that we try to educated everyone on how to get the most out of their setups, nobody with holds information, instead we try as hard as possible to educate everyone on what they could do to squeeze every last drop out of their video card, proccy, ram, or whatever. I cant count how many times people on this forum have stated that "most people dont have the know-how or intellegence to get XXXdb out of that sub." Why? Is it like grandmas and cooking recipies? Maybe i dont understand because ive been stationed overseas for the last 2 years and out of the loop. Why would you not let someone in on the best ways to optimize thier setup? Ive learned alot from this forum so far but its taken some serious reading and asking. So, how does it work? Are enclosure specs deeply guarded secrets? Im not accusing anyone or anything, im just asking becuase i really dont know. There seems to be alot of this, "figure it out yourself noob" attitude. Whats the deal? Ive read about people with one 12" sub hitting INSANE levels. What ive never read is how they did it. How does the information flow work? Am i missing the point? Again im not bashing anyone im just ignorant of this kinda stuff.