You know what? Since ive made this thread i have had alot of IMs thrown my way about keeping the spirit of this forum alive, and about not dwelling on what haters will throw your way. People praising me for wanting to learn and challenging the way that this forum is known for doing things. Its sad that so many feel this way but dont say it publicly. Seems to me the whole, "im the man **** off" mind set doesnt hold the liquid as well as it once did. You guys that just wanna piss in peoples weathies, do your thing, but those of us that want to learn and master this craft will keep on helping one another. Be that guy if you want, but nobody, but nobody likes that guy.