What is the best 1000wrms sub?

[dave_damage 10+ year member]

I loled

 

[dennis09x 10+ year member]

i loled as well

 

[Intrepid Bass 10+ year member]

lmao.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

the JL is an accurate sub, just not the most accurate that I have tested.In my experience the W6 was more accurate and I attest that to the stiffness of the W7 suspension.

"Accuracy" of a speaker is easily predictable. There is a popular trend today to disbelieve specs, because they are 'on paper'. As if speaker designers do not follow rules, adhere to laws of physics, or design with specs. No, they just slap together parts randomly until the magical combination comes together, magical because it does not appear 'on paper' to be a valid design. Or, maybe today's speaker designers are in a whole other league than us amateurs, heck they use a new set of specs to design by that we dont even know about.
The point Im getting at is, it is proven in previous testing that the vast majority of distortion a speaker can/will produce is BL distortion. And as BL plots are readily available, clearly showing the W7's superiority to, in this case, the W6... yes, your results are fatally flawed. As well intended as they were.

 

[GAM3OVR 5,000+ posts]

We like them sony XPLODS around these parts, boy....

the red ones too!

they handles moar PEAK wattas!

 

[GAM3OVR 5,000+ posts]

Even a blind squirrel gets a nut every once in awhile.
Sometimes the 8s are all that fits, though...I'd still like them to make an 8W6v2...

I wouldn't mind gettin a few 8W7's

I heard one in a ported enclosure, Very nice!

Probably the nicest W7..... IMO

 

[integra88 10+ year member]

OP..Don't know if this even matters anymore...I have an RE SX DVC2 15" and I am feeding it 2500 watts daily w/ no problems...yet. I have competed in 2 comps and even won in Street Max and bass race. I have used alot of other subs and I really like the SX. Just my .02

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

"Accuracy" of a speaker is easily predictable. There is a popular trend today to disbelieve specs, because they are 'on paper'. As if speaker designers do not follow rules, adhere to laws of physics, or design with specs. No, they just slap together parts randomly until the magical combination comes together, magical because it does not appear 'on paper' to be a valid design. Or, maybe today's speaker designers are in a whole other league than us amateurs, heck they use a new set of specs to design by that we dont even know about.

What are you talking about? There are a few companies that slap together spare or discontinued parts and call it an all new design. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Fi Q

 

[Bass911 10+ year member]

Ed I agree with you on the W7 and you are wasting your time trying to prove yourself to these guys. It is a good sub IMO, but not for the price. It is overrated. I've been to comps where guys assumed since they had W7, that they were going to kill guys with lesser quality subs. I assumed the same thing. We both were wrong. Most of the time they never made the top 3. I don't care if JL has been working on the sub since 1788, it still isn't the most accurate. The W7 sounds good, but Image Dynamics are some of the most accurate subs I've ever heard. I don't agree with Kicker handling double bass better, but I could be wrong?

 

[blackman 10+ year member]

Db Drive Plw

 

[spencer321 10+ year member]

are you retarded? JL is not overrated, they are some of the best subs out there. And to say a w7 is overated is probably the dumbest thing ive ever heard. Maybe you should get a jl sub before you say they are overrated!

i don't mean to be a dick... but, in my opinion JL is overrated but its overrated because its over priced. Basically for the same amount of money you would spend on a W7 12 you could buy 2 sx's, 2 q's, 2 IXL's etc... its a long list

 

[spencer321 10+ year member]

I tested sealed boxes for each sub as well as I stated in the beginning.
Seeing as how accuracy was the only criteria I used to measure with ears only this test could have been by nature a little subjective.

But this test was for me, not to publish, and ultimately your ear is the final judge of how a sub sounds Correct?

These were "real world" tests.

And what constitutes the JL W7 being the best in accuracy from a measured standpoint? What is the technique to measure accuracy?

To anyone that has ever used many different drivers, you will know that one can look better than another on paper, but in the real world, paper doesnt mean anything.

Here are my results from the JL W7 testing.

Chevy HHR

Ported Box

--SPL with 500w = 133.3 dB

--SPL with 1000w = 135.7 dB

--Frequency response from 20-60hz

I scored this on a 40 point system similar to IASCA rules. Difference is that I counted every frequency from 20-59 hz and not the full bandwith at 1/3 octave.

Starting with 40 points I found my base SPL for each sub and deducted a point for every frequency that was 2 dB off as opposed to 3dB in the full bandwith test. Every 2dB deviation is 1 point.

JL W7 scored 8 points.

--Accuracy

I measured on my own scale of 1-10

JL W7 measured a 7

--Durability

10min. 1000w 50 hz tone = Sub started smoking after 8 minutes, did not blow.

10 min. 2000w 50 hz tone = 1 Coil failed in just under 2 minutes.

Sealed box testing

--SPL with 500w = 129.1dB

--SPL with 1000w = 132.9 dB

--Frequency response from 20-60hz

from same test as above

JLW7 scored 20

--Accuracy

JL W7 scored 8

Agree or dont agree, if you have a thing for JL you wont pay attention to any result that shows other subs beating them anyway.

These tests were for me and I found my perfect sub.

I understand it would take some time, but could we get these results for the rest of the subwoofers in the group.

 

[MmatsDude 10+ year member]

Mmats Dreadnaut. Sick sub.

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

but its overrated because its over priced. Basically for the same amount of money you would spend on a W7 12 you could buy 2 sx's, 2 q's, 2 IXL's etc... its a long list

Last I checked the price of a driver doesn't affect the way it sounds...

If you want to call it overpriced (if you actually compare it to subs in the same category, you'd find that it is very reasonably priced, but I digress), fine. But over-rated would imply that it doesn't do what it is advertised to do. It does that with great aplomb. Over-hyped, I'll give you. There are way too many idiots out there that base their opinion on what they see on Unique Whips and Pimp My Ride.