What is recommended to run an Orion 2500d @.5 daily?

[stephens30228 10+ year member]

I am getting 2 18" IA DP's D2 and I want to run an Orion pushing them, that means 2 ohm or .5 ohm right? What is the best way to ge my electrical stout enough without an alternator? I have all stock right now, I was told to go with a shuriken bt100 in the rear and a smaller up front, does that mean that 2 kenetik 1800's would work as well? Any cheaper options? Thanks

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[Villeza1 10+ year member]

His stock alt is a 130a max output (not sure of idle speeds), it was also mentioned for him to accomplish the big 3 as well as the shuriken BT100.

You could also try to find a used BT120 or BT140, or any other group 31 AGM batt with 100ah+.

 

[stephens30228 10+ year member]

Hey I was taking your ideas. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif Just confirming that it would be enough is all, I am not the type to ask for help and not take it, just the more information you have the better is all. I will be doing the big 3 when I buy the amp, and the battery will probably wait because of low funds, but I will get one before going down to .5, I will just stick with the 2ohm for the time being.

 

[Villeza1 10+ year member]

I understand you want to find the cheapest route and want others to chime in. But wiring an amp under its stable load will call for a stout electrical system strong enough to handle the current demands from the amplifier. Even though rise will kick up impedance during play, you still will need a strong electrical system. That or you could wire it to 0.5 and keep gains really low (not recommended though).

Just keep on saving man, trust me I feel your pain too. Lol You'll benefit from it in the end.

 

[stephens30228 10+ year member]

Hmm, i may just strap two 2500d's together later instead of risking the .5, I would think that 2ohms pushing close to 5k would be enough for your subs wouldnt it? That will also save my eletrical somewhat if I understand correctly. Maybe that would be a bit cheaper. Still would need the front battery and back battery, but wouldn't need near as much upgrading, even if I was to push say 3k, it would still be nice.

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

Amazing cooling would be my suggestion, amazing electrical, and my next suggestion would be to simply not do it.

Also those amps are not strappable.

However, I do have two sitting here along with a 8004 lol

 

[OmegaBunny 10+ year member]

You would still need to upgrade your electrical. Just because you go from one amp running .5 ohms to 2 amps running @ 2 your still doubling the amp draw. While it will be more effecient (for the amps) to run 2 amps at a two ohm load than one amp @ .5 ohm, you are still increasing the need for more juice to power them. You can't double the amount of amps and power and expect to not need more juice to run them. You understand?

 

[OmegaBunny 10+ year member]

For most applications, in order to run 3k you are going to need a HO alt since the amp can draw as much as 250a assuming its 100% effecient. Real world may be more like 200 - 225a but thats still a lot of juice. By the time you buy enough batteries to support that you might as well go ahead and get the alt and a big battery or two.

Also, even if you buy 3 or 4 big batteries, you still need to be able to keep up with the charging demand and a stock alt will typically be a chocking point in the system.

 

[CAT MAN 5,000+ posts]

You would still need to upgrade your electrical. Just because you go from one amp running .5 ohms to 2 amps running @ 2 your still doubling the amp draw. While it will be more effecient (for the amps) to run 2 amps at a two ohm load than one amp @ .5 ohm, you are still increasing the need for more juice to power them. You can't double the amount of amps and power and expect to not need more juice to run them. You understand?

was in bluefield Wv and princten. the other day. your state still *****

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

For most applications, in order to run 3k you are going to need a HO alt since the amp can draw as much as 250a assuming its 100% effecient. Real world may be more like 200 - 225a but thats still a lot of juice. By the time you buy enough batteries to support that you might as well go ahead and get the alt and a big battery or two.
Also, even if you buy 3 or 4 big batteries, you still need to be able to keep up with the charging demand and a stock alt will typically be a chocking point in the system.

HHHmmmm, sounds like someone got the memo on proper electrical //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/sneaky.gif.7189749b3a3f769e8815b47e8ae87f88.gif

 

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was in bluefield Wv and princten. the other day. your state still *****

I been trying to get him to move for a while... lol

 

[CAT MAN 5,000+ posts]

HHHmmmm, sounds like someone got the memo on proper electrical //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/sneaky.gif.7189749b3a3f769e8815b47e8ae87f88.gif 

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I been trying to get him to move for a while... lol

lived there in bluefield a while. was meh. i love roanoke here. f-ng great. better than tampa IMO

 

[OmegaBunny 10+ year member]

LOL Southern WV does ****, that's why I never go there! I live in the eastern Panhandle closer to Winchester, Va. We're close to DC, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, etc. Much nicer here.
@pro\-rabbit ; I would move but you know my wife is terrified of tornados

 

[stephens30228 10+ year member]

Amazing cooling would be my suggestion, amazing electrical, and my next suggestion would be to simply not do it.

Also those amps are not strappable.

However, I do have two sitting here along with a 8004 lol

Sorry, thought they could be strapped, even then, I can run 1 to each speaker, that will give me 1ohm right? Though I am not sure about how that would work with them being the same box.

You would still need to upgrade your electrical. Just because you go from one amp running .5 ohms to 2 amps running @ 2 your still doubling the amp draw. While it will be more effecient (for the amps) to run 2 amps at a two ohm load than one amp @ .5 ohm, you are still increasing the need for more juice to power them. You can't double the amount of amps and power and expect to not need more juice to run them. You understand?

Yeah, I misunderstood how it worked I guess. I thought that I could run more wattage at 2 than one because it was more efficient.

For most applications, in order to run 3k you are going to need a HO alt since the amp can draw as much as 250a assuming its 100% effecient. Real world may be more like 200 - 225a but thats still a lot of juice. By the time you buy enough batteries to support that you might as well go ahead and get the alt and a big battery or two.
Also, even if you buy 3 or 4 big batteries, you still need to be able to keep up with the charging demand and a stock alt will typically be a chocking point in the system.

How much can I run off of 130amp alternator? One HC2000 up front and one HC2000 in the back okay?

 

[OmegaBunny 10+ year member]

HHHmmmm, sounds like someone got the memo on proper electrical //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/sneaky.gif.7189749b3a3f769e8815b47e8ae87f88.gif 

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I been trying to get him to move for a while... lol

I'm learning about electrical but can't get myself to follow my own advice lol.

 

[ampjunkielikeme 10+ year member]

running a orion 2500d at .5ohm is a no no..... not unless you want to pay 250.00 to repair it after you kill the output section.......