What HDTV do you use?

[Rochambeau 10+ year member]

Scooby, sent you a PM to avoid cluttering this thread.

Thanks.

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

yes the 337h, no tuner
working great so far, just waiting to get rid of the huge tv next to it so i can settle it down in its final resting place and calibrate it with avia

I'm considering just saving the money and going with the 337 since I'll have an HC cable box and don't really think I'll need the built-in tuner...plus, IMO the silver of the 337 looks better then the black 537.

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

My 337H works great, I love it with my Xbox360. Now if my Apartment just didn't feed off of campus cable... which SUCKS.

Oh well... I mainly like it for Games/Movies.

nG

 

[bikejunkie223 10+ year member]

Listening and watching TV's and Speakers is the key to finding what looks the best to your eyes and ears. Paradigm isn't really in the same class as B&W. I'm sure the reason they sound "warmer" or "fatter" is because the mid->low-mid range is much fuller and natural. (Difference between a higher end speaker and a sony book shelf system, the sony system sounds less warm or fat than the higher end one) It's all in what you are used to listening to. Also, the equipment used to power/drive the speakers make a BIG effect on higher end gear. The Paradigm you can get away with running cheaper gear, while B&W's you can run that same equipment but when you upgrade to Rotel, Arcam, or something crazy like Classe the difference is rather large...

I disagree in the statement that B&W is in a different class, sure some of what they make may well be but the majority of what they produce is in competitive price class with a great number of speaker manufacturers like Paradigm. You are a B&W fanboi, so you are hardly objective on the subject. You prefer the sound of B&W, that's awesome, I am glad you have found what you like. As for the amp determining the sound, you are correct, a pre/pro + dedicated amp will nearly always sound better than a reciever, but the differences are very subtle IMO until you spend the enormous jack it takes to buy Rotel or Classe. I agree my speakers don't compare well to some of the B&W speakers that cost twice as much, but you can't possibly say those B&W speakers sound twice as good. If you have the financial means to buy the very best you can be concerned with the smallest of nuances, but you will pay for that difference. My point is at any given price point the quality is virtually the same from brand to brand and it is simply a matter of preference. There are some that would argue Dynaudio makes better HT speakers than B&W, and for those that prefer Dyn that would be a factual statement. That's my opinion- it is not fact that B&W makes the most superior speakers ever- it is fact that they make some of them along with several other companies, and your opinion of the best can be different from mine and there is nothing wrong with that. Shit, some think Bose stuff is awesome- people that have never heard real home theater stuff....

 

[1loudsuv 10+ year member]

i might be stuck with the def techs //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif i really dont want to buy another sub after selling a dam good one to my brother.

plus i think its really neat how they have built in subs. my girl hated my sub cause it took up alot of room in our small room

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

Boo to the girl //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif determining sound equipment.

If you take some 3way floor standers... in the same price range... I'd more than likely take the B&W's.

nG

 

[supa_c 5,000+ posts]

Sub under the bed...dur

Get some bassshakers

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

I disagree in the statement that B&W is in a different class, sure some of what they make may well be but the majority of what they produce is in competitive price class with a great number of speaker manufacturers like Paradigm. You are a B&W fanboi, so you are hardly objective on the subject. You prefer the sound of B&W, that's awesome, I am glad you have found what you like. As for the amp determining the sound, you are correct, a pre/pro + dedicated amp will nearly always sound better than a reciever, but the differences are very subtle IMO until you spend the enormous jack it takes to buy Rotel or Classe. I agree my speakers don't compare well to some of the B&W speakers that cost twice as much, but you can't possibly say those B&W speakers sound twice as good. If you have the financial means to buy the very best you can be concerned with the smallest of nuances, but you will pay for that difference. My point is at any given price point the quality is virtually the same from brand to brand and it is simply a matter of preference. There are some that would argue Dynaudio makes better HT speakers than B&W, and for those that prefer Dyn that would be a factual statement. That's my opinion- it is not fact that B&W makes the most superior speakers ever- it is fact that they make some of them along with several other companies, and your opinion of the best can be different from mine and there is nothing wrong with that. Shit, some think Bose stuff is awesome- people that have never heard real home theater stuff....

Well first of all you can't measure what sounds better or not so you can't put a multiplier on it, you can with a monetary value like dollars. To some people that extra money is way worth what it costs to get a better item. I do agree that sound is very very subjective but you are just as much subjective your way as I am mine. I'm sure that I have listened to just as many if not more setups with a much more technical disposition. I don't know your background in audio but I presume it's much different than mine. Paradigm is a different class of speaker because of the components used, price range, and construction methods. They, to me, are a totally difference class of speaker. They don't compete at all to my ears with brands such as B&W, Dali, Sonus Faber, or Gamut. These speakers are much more expensive, but I have the means and the need for that extra bit. So it's a lot more valuable to me, as it's not to you.

We could sit here and go back and forth all night about who is the best and what is a justifiable about of money for a system. To me, I love my $12,000 system, but would if I could spend twice or three times that. To other's I'm just crazy and they can't hear the difference. And I’m not totally 100% and absolute B&W dogg for life. I love them, and do enjoy their product a lot, but would I look into other speakers some day sure I would. Gamut L5’s are very splendid speakers, so are many others. But, this is my second set of B&W speakers, first ones were rebuilt DM330i, and my father just got not too long a go his second set which are B&W 804S.

SO, to each his own... I wasn't knocking your speakers, but just trying to make a clear and visible separation between Canadian Gear and the gear from Jolly Ol' England...

This sort of reminds me of the Bryston vs. Rotel arguments….

Canada vs. England

VS.

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

Sub under the bed...durGet some bassshakers

Maybe the girl wouldn't mind anymore then....

Plus, don't listen to her... Your system will never ***** at you or leave you or make you do anything you really don't want to do...

 

[99StangGt 10+ year member]

8 years ago I had Paradigm bipolar fronts and rears with a paradigm center and loved them. I didnt need a sub but added one and it was killer. I have always wanted B&Ws but couldnt afford them. Maybe when the kids are gone I can get a new system.

 

[supa_c 5,000+ posts]

Canada> all

/ argument

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

8 years ago I had Paradigm bipolar fronts and rears with a paradigm center and loved them. I didnt need a sub but added one and it was killer. I have always wanted B&Ws but couldnt afford them. Maybe when the kids are gone I can get a new system.

How old are they? If over 16 kick them out now... They will be fine... haha....

Canada> all/ argument

I don't think Canada has ever powned anyone have they??

 

[supa_c 5,000+ posts]

I dunno, been a while since i took canadian history and i was to young to get into the good stuff.

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

Canada is worthless.

nG

 

[supa_c 5,000+ posts]

So is your life

Die...NOW

kthxbi