TV trade, what do you guys think

[dvrmstrng 5,000+ posts]

it comes with a one year warranty as well..

 

[Fiercetimbo17 10+ year member]

Wow you don't know squat. If Plasma is such a dead technology why are the best TVs Plasma? any real HT enthusiast will choose plasma over LCD. the only down fall plasmas have is that the viewing screen is typically highly reflective and bad for rooms with alot of direct like (lamps, windows espcially ones receiving direct sunlight). Plasma have a much higher contrast ratio due to the faster processing speeds. Plasma do not experience burn in as much as you think. alot of the burn in was due to the neon and xenon gas used to make the screen. those gases would get extremely hot due to the high color tempertures of animation. a few years ago Pioneer and Panasonic realized that they could drastically reduce the amount of gas in the screen with out sacrificing picture quality. LCD screens have a brighter color scale (not better, just brighter). due to this bright scale that LCDs operate in, they typically use a matte finished screen (only the high end Samsungs use a semi-reflective screen). the only reason why ppl are so down on plasma is b/c of the bad reps they got in there early years of technology and all those problems have since been eliminated. if you were to burn in a new plasma screen it would take days on the same screen with a high temp color like red. they only reason to get an LCD over plasma is b/c you have a room with a lot of direct light that reflects of the screen (again lamps and windows directly infront of screen). the main reason why ppl get LCDs is b/c they are not properly educated on the technology out on TVs. all tv's out the box need to have their colors calibrated. since LCD screens have a brighter image, everyone thinks that "oh look at how bright that picture is, it must be the best". this is absolute b/s. reps like myself go into stores and set TVs to their highest brightness level b/c most customer associate brightness with clarity. as for 1080p, it will not be a fully usable resolution until all sources adopt 1080p formats. right now if you just watch blu-ray movies than getting a 1080p is a must, if not it really doesn't matter. yeah yeah, i know i am going to get those ppl that say "i got a 32" 1080p LCD and I can see the difference between 1080p and 720p. well honestly you can't the pixel size can not be detected by the human eye until you get over 55". anything else you wanna know?

Your a plasma tv rep and your not aware your technology is dying. Pioneer is out, with panasonic and samsung rumored to be right behind them.

Apparently i do not know squat, however i already knew everything you just listed??

You are correct about burn in, however you must realize your talking about a vizio, not a samsung panasonic pioneer or any other quality tv.

Not that anything is terribly wrong with vizio they are a decent budget tv, kinda like the hifonics of car audio.

Btw a real HT enthuiest would rock a tube TV if they were big enough without being so ****ing big.

 

[bball09124 10+ year member]

Your a plasma tv rep and your not aware your technology is dying. Pioneer is out, with panasonic and samsung rumored to be right behind them.
Apparently i do not know squat, however i already knew everything you just listed??

You are correct about burn in, however you must realize your talking about a vizio, not a samsung panasonic pioneer or any other quality tv.

Not that anything is terribly wrong with vizio they are a decent budget tv, kinda like the hifonics of car audio.

Btw a real HT enthuiest would rock a tube TV if they were big enough without being so ****ing big.

And you cannot differentiate between the proper use of "your" and "you're".

So you agree that plasma's have better picture quality (provided they are not in a bright room), cost less, and are preferred by video enthusiasts to lcds? If so, explain why you would not want a plasma instead of an LCD?

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

Don't do it on the Vizio, no point really.

I would do it on the LG, but the way you make it sound, he wants your tv, plus 800 smacks? If so, I don't know, would be hard to pass up a 60" Plasma for 800 smacks. If he lets you check it out, and all works well and still has the warranty on it, I would do it.

Just don't do the trade on the vizio vs the vizio. No point really and I have seen both plasma's and LCDS next to eachother and the LCD looked better to me. How they had it setup though is beyond me.

 

[fasfocus00 5,000+ posts]

Your a plasma tv rep and your not aware your technology is dying. Pioneer is out, with panasonic and samsung rumored to be right behind them.
Apparently i do not know squat, however i already knew everything you just listed??

You are correct about burn in, however you must realize your talking about a vizio, not a samsung panasonic pioneer or any other quality tv.

Not that anything is terribly wrong with vizio they are a decent budget tv, kinda like the hifonics of car audio.

Btw a real HT enthuiest would rock a tube TV if they were big enough without being so ****ing big.

no I am not a Plasma TV Rep, I'm actually a Sony HT rep. as for the quality tv of a Vizio, you should know that majority of parts are the same from one brand to another especially in the same price range, the only difference is the casing. as for the real HT enthusiast comment, you prove even more that you don't know anything.

 

[Louisiana_CRX 5,000+ posts]

just say .......no

 

[Fiercetimbo17 10+ year member]

And you cannot differentiate between the proper use of "your" and "you're".
So you agree that plasma's have better picture quality (provided they are not in a bright room), cost less, and are preferred by video enthusiasts to lcds? If so, explain why you would not want a plasma instead of an LCD?

What does my proper use of grammar have to do with anything? go **** yourself noob.

Plasma tvs are not a better choice to LCD, to the average consumer am LCD outweighs a plamsa in every catageory, end of story thanks.

 

[Fiercetimbo17 10+ year member]

no I am not a Plasma TV Rep, I'm actually a Sony HT rep. as for the quality tv of a Vizio, you should know that majority of parts are the same from one brand to another especially in the same price range, the only difference is the casing. as for the real HT enthusiast comment, you prove even more that you don't know anything.

Yes actually i do know the source of vizio products, they come from the manufacturer that build INSIGNIA tv's...o snap...

 

[bball09124 10+ year member]

What does my proper use of grammar have to do with anything? go **** yourself noob.
Plasma tvs are not a better choice to LCD, to the average consumer am LCD outweighs a plamsa in every catageory, end of story thanks.

You agreed with fasfocus that current plasma's are not subject to burn-in, have better picture quality (deep blacks and no motion blur), and are usually cheaper. Why wouldn't the average consumer want a plasma over an LCD?

You are contradicting yourself and making yourself look like a fool.

 

[stopdrpnro 10+ year member]

i wouldn't do the trade unless he threw in cash.plasma>lcd but 1080p>1080i . while it's tough too see the difference in 1080i/p. 1080p tvs will typically have better panels , contrast ratios and video processing. combined with the better resolution you can see the difference in most cases.

and plasma is not a dying technology. the companies that have stopped producing plasmas account for a tiny portion of plasma sales. the top and bottom end(vizio and pioneer). the larger companies lg,samsung and panasonic are making a killing off plasma 30% margin on them compared to lcds 10-20%. plasma will be around until oled becomes affordable but when that happens lcds are doomed too.

 

[Fiercetimbo17 10+ year member]

You agreed with fasfocus that current plasma's are not subject to burn-in, have better picture quality (deep blacks and no motion blur), and are usually cheaper. Why wouldn't the average consumer want a plasma over an LCD?
You are contradicting yourself and making yourself look like a fool.

Incorrect, I agreed that a quality plasma is LESS subject to burn in, however it can still and will happen.

Dont believe me? I have seen a $70,000 runco plasma get a burned in image, yes it was due to user error however, had it been an LCD it would not have been a problem.

So regardless due to the technology, plasmas are subject to burn in images despite their quality. In this thread we are talking about a VIZIO, which is equal to the remote the of the runco plasma i mentioned earlier.

However that is beside the point, there is no reason to buy a plasma. Yes with a plasma you can have a 10000000:1 contrast ratio, however did you knwo beyond 10000:1 the human eye cannot detect a difference. Its simply a cool fact, much like MAX watts.

Why would the average consumer not want a plasma? Yes you can buy a piece of shit plasma for $1000, or you can spend that $1000 and get a quality LCD, which would you prefer?

Im not contradicting myself in anyway, I know what im talking about, unlike yourself and the sony rep, BTW Sony has also dropped plasma TVs for their OLED TV's, another reason plasma is dead.

Im not trying to start shit with you, but plasma televisions are an old technology that will not be around in 5 years, it will join DLP and rear projection as a lost techonolgy, not that its a bad technology just not as appealing to the consumer as other choices (LCD).

To the above poster, you mentionded processing of the plasma tv's, did you know that the processing that goes on in a plasma is more than a DLP or rear projection...so what is the advantage of it over a DLP? Besides being a flat panel that is...

If you want to argue about value why are we not talking about DLP's?????

 

[dvrmstrng 5,000+ posts]

got another offer....Vizio VP50HDTV.... 50" plasma 1080i....straight up trade...TV is newer than mine..

 

[dvrmstrng 5,000+ posts]

or could anyone tell me what type of panasonic this is?

http://southjersey.craigslist.org/ele/1103929902.html

 

[Thread Saver 10+ year member]

I would guess its an opinion, as thats what these yahoos are arguing over. I prefer plasma to LCD. My 50' Plasma looks better than the 50' lcd I had and took back after 24 hours(both were Sammys). Viewing distance plays a big part. Where I sit, it looks great. Move foward 5 feet and it still looks good. After that it gradually looks worse the closer I get.

 

[Ken448 10+ year member]

hes not a buddy...just someone here in town....said the glare in his living room is ruining his viewing experience with the plasma...my tv is in my basement

Likely true. Plasmas (in the showroom) all tend to have a more crisp image BUT the face is always glossy. LCD's have a matte face so glare isnt an issue period. I know for my TV room, LCD is the only way to go because of the glare issue.