yeah my car does actually weigh quite a bit. i'm not sure how much they weigh stock(i wanna say 3600), but i know that most fox body mustang's with a gutted interior, aluminum heads, and fiberglass hood weigh about 3000-3200lbs. with the driver. but i wouldn't say they're overrated at all. i mean, i have 96k miles on mine, so i'm sure it's not as "fresh" as it used to be, the valve springs could probably use replacing and all, but i still wouldn't say that they're overrated. imo, i think supra's are overrated. while i've never owned one, or known anybody that's owned one, or even know enough to make any sort of accurate comment about it, i still find it very hard to believe that the stock internals/block/transmission can handle some $20k turbo kit and be putting out 1100hp.