Time Alignment Help.

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I would suggest trying both extremes and then dial it in from there to your taste. I actually have up on my DSP. Just trying to give you some feedback.

I don't mind the feedback... in fact, the more input I get, the more my brain can rattle loose what needs to come out of it. I am also going to try a setting (I have 4 total presets I can program in the DSP) with NO time delay. Old school straight stereo if you will and see how that sounds. I am guessing that the left speakers will be overpowering with that setting. If so, I have some ideas....

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

I don't mind the feedback... in fact, the more input I get, the more my brain can rattle loose what needs to come out of it. I am also going to try a setting (I have 4 total presets I can program in the DSP) with NO time delay. Old school straight stereo if you will and see how that sounds. I am guessing that the left speakers will be overpowering with that setting. If so, I have some ideas....

The only thing I see is that tweeter in the drivers side pillar being too bright and hitting too soon. I'm no audiophile though. I dumped my DSP and went 4 four way electronic.

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

I'm with nauc with this one. You gotta add and subtract values until you hear it centered by ear.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

I'm with nauc with this one. You gotta add and subtract values until you hear it centered by ear.

That's why I said start far away and dialing it in from there. Good luck man!

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

The RF DSP is weird... Has me measure the sub distance which is exactly 70" but I am to put in 0" for it's distance. What if I didn't have a sub... would I them measure the furthest speaker (Right Twt) and input 0" for that, measure the left twt and subtract its distance from the actual distance of the right twt? 54" - 36" = 18" for the left tweeter? Maybe I should get a different DSP lol.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

The RF DSP is weird... Has me measure the sub distance which is exactly 70" but I am to put in 0" for it's distance. What if I didn't have a sub... would I them measure the furthest speaker (Right Twt) and input 0" for that, measure the left twt and subtract its distance from the actual distance of the right twt? 54" - 36" = 18" for the left tweeter? Maybe I should get a different DSP lol.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

The RF DSP is weird... Has me measure the sub distance which is exactly 70" but I am to put in 0" for it's distance. What if I didn't have a sub... would I them measure the furthest speaker (Right Twt) and input 0" for that, measure the left twt and subtract its distance from the actual distance of the right twt? 54" - 36" = 18" for the left tweeter? Maybe I should get a different DSP lol.

Is your sub really 6 feet away from you? I find that hard to believe.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Is your sub really 6 feet away from you? I find that hard to believe.

From my head straight back through the back seat (folded down) into the trunk to the front of the box is exactly 70". 2008 Pontiac G6 Coupe.

Edit: to be clear, it's 5 feet 8 inches away.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

From my head straight back through the back seat (folded down) into the trunk to the front of the box is exactly 70". 2008 Pontiac G6 Coupe.

Edit: to be clear, it's 5 feet 8 inches away.

I think that we are so used to "normal" sound that corrected sound, sounds funny.

 

[whitedragon551 5,000+ posts]

Sounds like RF doesnt understand how time alignment works. Try these calculations.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I just don't understand why they want the furthest speaker away to be at 0 distance. I followed these steps exactly:

 

[nauc 10+ year member]

how do you have your mids/tweets wired up?

my setup...

left tweet = front left channel
left mid = rear left channel

right tweet = front right channel
right mid = rear right channel

that way i can delay each speaker separately

 

[nauc 10+ year member]

I just don't understand why they want the furthest speaker away to be at 0 distance. I followed these steps exactly:

i think they mean 0 because youre not going to delay your sub, which is your furthest speaker

kinda lame way to say it tho. idk

 

[whitedragon551 5,000+ posts]

i think they mean 0 because youre not going to delay your sub, which is your furthest speaker

kinda lame way to say it tho. idk

Correct. You normally dont delay your sub. Instead it is the baseline for how much you delay every other speaker.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

how do you have your mids/tweets wired up?

my setup...

left tweet = front left channel
left mid = rear left channel

right tweet = front right channel
right mid = rear right channel

that way i can delay each speaker separately

I have mine just like this.