The Official Type R Thread

[LBX2G 10+ year member]

i just got one question...I am not doubting any of ur research. But what boxes where used.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Im confused also. You show the SeXXX as almost 2db's higher than the SX, yet the SX was shown to be peak louder than the SeXXX by RE themselves (hence they were obsoleted). Clearly something is amiss.

 

[PowerdByGuiness 10+ year member]

good *** numbers! im very impressed how well the type R does. judging from what youve been doing, how much would it handle on a daily driver setup? would you mind also sharing hte numbers all 3 subs put in daily driver type boxes (your 1.5cube, 35Hz)

 

[SBLAZER]

all i have 2 say is "TYPE R POWA" now tommy all u need 2 do is get rid of those 9.1s and get some orion 1200ds yo. some real power hahaha

 

[Spkrman]

Im confused also. You show the SeXXX as almost 2db's higher than the SX, yet the SX was shown to be peak louder than the SeXXX by RE themselves (hence they were obsoleted). Clearly something is amiss.

with RE, sure //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Perhaps its just the 10's, who knows.

All I can tell ya is type R > SX in every category in both 10 and 15" size... and although I haven't A/B'd the 12's I can tell ya the R's sound better and probably get louder.

It must also be noted that this test uses a relatively low note... the R's don't do fart notes, the SX's do. Perhaps in that situation the SX will be better. But eventhen... the SX still doesn't musically handle the power and of course high note = sounds the ***.

Does it make sense on paper, HELL NO, absolutely NONE. But the R spanks em both consistently. And yea, that "500 RMS" woofer with 2" coil handles more power for longer periods than the SX.

 

[Spkrman]

good *** numbers! im very impressed how well the type R does. judging from what youve been doing, how much would it handle on a daily driver setup? would you mind also sharing hte numbers all 3 subs put in daily driver type boxes (your 1.5cube, 35Hz)

tommy's note is what, 44hz?

the boxes ARE daily driver boxes... play whatever you want.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

All Im saying is this 'test' shows exact opposite results on a sub comparison we already know (SX versus SeXXX)... from their own manufacturer. And not by a little, bya discrepancy of at least 2-3db's (RE showed the SX considerably louder than the SeXXX). So I have to wonder why this is. Is this person better than RE at testing their own products? Or is something amiss here? No offense to tommy here, I appreciate him posting his findings. But Im skeptical of people taking this as the gospel.

In any event, I really need to hear some of these new R's, sounds like Alpine might be coming around finally.

 

[tommyk90 5,000+ posts]

i just got one question...I am not doubting any of ur research. But what boxes where used.

Well, there was a 2 cube box, a 1 cube box, and a 2.1 cube box, all of which incorporated multiple (and varying amounts) aeroports. All of the subs performed the best in the 2 cube box. I have yet to try the type-r in the 2.1 cube box, but my guess is it'll act the same as the other subs.

Im confused also. You show the SeXXX as almost 2db's higher than the SX, yet the SX was shown to be peak louder than the SeXXX by RE themselves (hence they were obsoleted). Clearly something is amiss.

Thats right, the seXXX performed BETTER than the SX did. It got louder, took the power better, and just sounded better than the SX did. Don't ask me why, because i don't know.....

Nothing is amiss, i tried everything i could to make the SX loud, and it just flat out sucked in my truck. I don't know what to say. The type-r takes both amps on music like nothing. The SX AND seXXX couldn't take both amps for music to save their lives, hence why i had to use only one amp for driveby.

good *** numbers! im very impressed how well the type R does. judging from what youve been doing, how much would it handle on a daily driver setup? would you mind also sharing hte numbers all 3 subs put in daily driver type boxes (your 1.5cube, 35Hz)

Well, the daily box hasn't been in for QUITE some time because I am constantly working on the competition setup, so i don't have any numbers from the daily driver box.

 

[revrider1 5,000+ posts]

The Type R's are excellent souding subs //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif . I have 3 10" in my daily driver car right now and they sound **** good. They are loud and hit accurate. I would never have expected to get this sound out of Alpine subs. I wish I would have heard them earlier before spending so much money on Audiobahn crap //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/mad.gif.c18f003ab0ef8a0d9c27ca78d77a6392.gif .

 

[tommyk90 5,000+ posts]

All Im saying is this 'test' shows exact opposite results on a sub comparison we already know (SX versus SeXXX)... from their own manufacturer. And not by a little, bya discrepancy of at least 2-3db's (RE showed the SX considerably louder than the SeXXX). So I have to wonder why this is. Is this person better than RE at testing their own products? Or is something amiss here? No offense to tommy here, I appreciate him posting his findings. But Im skeptical of people taking this as the gospel.
In any event, I really need to hear some of these new R's, sounds like Alpine might be coming around finally.

I honestly don't know what to say man. I'm as confused as you. Everyone told me the SX would take the power no problem, but it doesn't, and in fact takes the power WORSE than my 1 and a half year old seXXX. I really have no explanation for it.

Multiple boxes, multiple notes, everything. The SX just didn't perform. I even tried breaking it in for a while to see if it would make a difference, and nothing. It could just very well be that the SX does not like my box/car configuration, and just doesn't perform.

 

[PowerdByGuiness 10+ year member]

thanks bud

i definitely know what im getting for my next setup

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Maybe your SX has a problem? RE definitely showed the SX was more efficient than the SeXXX. My confusion is why there is such a difference between those two subs.

 

[tommyk90 5,000+ posts]

Maybe your SX has a problem? RE definitely showed the SX was more efficient than the SeXXX. My confusion is why there is such a difference between those two subs.

SX is a BRAND NEW recone i got straight from david who tested it out beforehand before he shipped it. Box was perfect when i got it, had no damages. Coils read fine, no rubbing or anything. Sub is perfectly fine.

 

[Spkrman]

All Im saying is this 'test' shows exact opposite results on a sub comparison we already know (SX versus SeXXX)... from their own manufacturer. And not by a little, bya discrepancy of at least 2-3db's (RE showed the SX considerably louder than the SeXXX). So I have to wonder why this is. Is this person better than RE at testing their own products? Or is something amiss here? No offense to tommy here, I appreciate him posting his findings. But Im skeptical of people taking this as the gospel.
In any event, I really need to hear some of these new R's, sounds like Alpine might be coming around finally.

I'd like to know what you think is "amiss"... lots of effort was put into the SX, and it sucked it up... hm

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[Spkrman]

Maybe your SX has a problem? RE definitely showed the SX was more efficient than the SeXXX. My confusion is why there is such a difference between those two subs.

Who stands to lose more by having the SEXXX louder than the SX?

Sure as hell isn't a competitor...