The big 3 just don't get it, nobody wants American cars.

[Lugnutz 10+ year member]

$14 an hour, that is stupid money for someone who simply screws in the same screws on the same part day in and day out. Dude, my father has been in construction hi entire life, and is scrounging for a job at Home Depot for $7/hr.
I really gets under my skin to see all hoopla, over the auto and financial industry, when the construction industry has (not may) sustained the level of layoffs, closings that these others are fearing. **** it up. Shit sucks, get off your fat *** and get into the trenches like the rest of us. We are dealing with it, why can't you? America is resilient, and we will bounce back. Why we feel the need to sell our souls for a quick fix is beyond me. Hell the Great Depression only lasted 2 years. how long will it take me, or for that matter my children to pay back the $700,000,000,000 ( count the zeros, it is a bunch of them!) it is going to take to see (not definate) if we can avoid a financial meltdown.

If you think that is all the work on an assembly line you are severely mistaken.

 

[kmanian 5,000+ posts]

That's more or less false. Even after the depression, we suffered numerous severe recessions. It wasn't like two years after the stock market crashed then good times where had by all.

that is when the recovery started. There will not be good times for all anytime soon even with the $700,000,000,000 we are pumping into these poorly run businesses.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_19/b3932001_mz001.htm

Let me know how your email goes.

It's going to be hard from an article from 2005, but I will reply...just because I said I would. But that article in no way proved causation. I subscribe to businessweek. Not sure if that will help.

 

[Lugnutz 10+ year member]

It's going to be hard from an article from 2005, but I will reply...just because I said I would. But that article in no way proved causation.

You in no way proved it didn't. You can CC your email to iceteebone@hotmail.com

 

[kmanian 5,000+ posts]

If you think that is all the work on an assembly line you are severely mistaken.

my point is there is no risk, they know the work is there, they know exactly what to do, the tools are supplied, and so are the entitlements. $14/hr is pretty good base pay for low end hourly work.

 

[kmanian 5,000+ posts]

If you think that is all the work on an assembly line you are severely mistaken.

enlighten me please.

 

[Lugnutz 10+ year member]

my point is there is no risk, they know the work is there, they know exactly what to do, the tools are supplied, and so are the entitlements. $14/hr is pretty good base pay for low end hourly work.

I make $12 an hour to do much easier work then an assembly line worker. I set on my *** and post here, and watch monitors.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

that is when the recovery started. There will not be good times for all anytime soon even with the $700,000,000,000 we are pumping into these poorly run businesses.

Some economists claim because we did not pump money into the economy, it exacerbated the Great Depression.

 

[Lugnutz 10+ year member]

enlighten me please.

Car comes down the line, you have to pick up the radiator assembly yourself, mount it to the car, attach the lines, in roughly 30 seconds, then it's on to the next one. My dad explained it much better.

 

[tukn18s 10+ year member]

I suppose I can chime in, while some may find my opinion bias. I worked for general motors, and my father has been there for quite some time. First off, the 80k a year, that's easily obtainable, my father made well over that last year ( he is skilled trade : electrician ) but I also know line workers that made that much. The amount of overtime that was worked here in lansing was ridiculous. I fear that the union is going to have to go by the wayside in order for general motors to be able to prosper. The bargaining is good, but they have backed gm into a corner, with high demands. Sure it was great to make 22 dollars an hour for a few months. I then came back for a pay cut at 14.51 an hour, still great money when you work 56 hours a week. (assembly line is not nearly as easy as putting a few screws in and being done, you're quite off on that one)

we've all seen the figures, hundreds of thousands of jobs lost, GDP of the country effected greatly, i don't see any possible situation in which them going under is a good thing, or even a reason to believe that it should even be considered. There needs to be a restructuring, but where does it begin? White collar needs to be trimmed, wages can be cut. But when you do that, you greatly change peoples way of living. It will be interesting what they decide, we all know Obama will bail them out, but can they last that long?

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

You in no way proved it didn't. You can CC your email to iceteebone@hotmail.com

First, I have to know how they arrived at that conclusion. It is possible to prove it, and they may well have. The article doesn't get into that.

The first e-mail/comment was how they arrived at that conclusion.

 

[Lugnutz 10+ year member]

First, I have to know how they arrived at that conclusion. It is possible to prove it, and they may well have. The article doesn't get into that.
The first e-mail/comment was how they arrived at that conclusion.

I want to see their response.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Car comes down the line, you have to pick up the radiator assembly yourself, mount it to the car, attach the lines, in roughly 30 seconds, then it's on to the next one. My dad explained it much better.

Nissan has a machine that helps lift any item over ~20 lbs. Plus, the engineers are working hard on making assembly lines that require no people by redesigning the order in which cars are made.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I want to see their response.

If I get one, we will both be in for a surprise. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[Lugnutz 10+ year member]

Nissan has a machine that helps lift any item over ~20 lbs. Plus, the engineers are working hard on making assembly lines that require no people by redesigning the order in which cars are made.

Well apparently Ford and the UAW aren't as nice as Nissan because my dad had to manually lift the radiator.