The big 3 just don't get it, nobody wants American cars.

[Lugnutz 10+ year member]

So, you mean WE'LL pay it?

You already do since they draw social security. Plus you'll pay their Medicare to.

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

11.5B in Pension expense...sheesh

Sheesh is right.

The P&L is about as ugly...

 

[Ferendon 10+ year member]

You already do since they draw social security. Plus you'll pay their Medicare to.

And I can only hope that when I get old, the young ****s in America won't have a choice but to pay my bills. It's only fair. It's the American way.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

So, you mean WE'LL pay it?

Yes.

And that is why there is a debate. If the big 3 fails, the US taxpayer is on the hook for the pensions.

What happened to the supposed money that was suppose to be vested into the pensions?

Only a fraction of what is "owed" is technically paid in to any pension for any company, even where I work. There is a "minimum payment" and based on actuarial work. I can explain better in person that on the internet.

 

[Ferendon 10+ year member]

Nice chatting with you ****s, but I have to get up the morning, and go earn some SS for the old ****s around here. God ****ed corporate bigwigs want me at the office an hour earlier than usual... I'VE GOT A ROUTINE, **** IT! ****.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Sheesh is right.
The P&L is about as ugly...

33B in postretirment benefits other than pensions.

I guess that is VEBA.

 

[endofdays89 5,000+ posts]

i really wish people would stop buying foreign cars. If you have a foreign car, at least do us all a favor and buy an american made car too.

The fact that we live in the united states and buy nothing but foreign cars is horrible.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

i really wish people would stop buying foreign cars. If you have a foreign car, at least do us all a favor and buy an american made car too.
The fact that we live in the united states and buy nothing but foreign cars is horrible.

What will those employed by foreign automakers and their suppliers do?

WHile I don't buy foreign, I do encourage the competition.

 

[JBGabriel 10+ year member]

LoL.There was a few 07s, and in 08 they renamed the Five-Hundred the Taurus.

The people who buy into this shit, with no facts whatsoever, are the same ****ing retards that drive gas to $4.00/gallon. Some of the most reliable cars on the road are American cars (which are largely built in Mexico/Canada), and some of the worst are the 'imports' (which are largely built in the US). The least reliable truck on the road right now, is the Toyota Tundra V8 4WD. One of the most reliable cars on the road (tied for 2nd, by industry standards of mechanical breakages per 100 cars sold) is the Ford Fusion, and the V6 Dodge Avenger. Do a little poking around in the automotive industry, and you'll find tons of misconceptions and lies, that 90% of America will believe. I work solely with dealership in my job, and the three steadiest dealerships I work with are a GMC/Buick/Pontiac dealership, a Saturn dealership, and a Ford dealership. The Toyota, Mitsubishi, Nissan, and Honda dealers I was doing tons of business with a few months ago, are laying people off left and right, and can't get a car off the lot to save their lives. I've done about $30k in parts/labor so far for this month, just for Five Star Ford, and another $20k in just parts for Classic GMC/Buick/Pontiac. But, the 'economists' say they ****, so people believe them. Just like they believe there was a legitimate reason for gas to be $4.00/gal. The American population is a large majority 'sheople', the OP included.

Hurray! Couldnt have said it better myself!

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

i really wish people would stop buying foreign cars. If you have a foreign car, at least do us all a favor and buy an american made car too.
The fact that we live in the united states and buy nothing but foreign cars is horrible.

My "American" E-150 was made in Canada, FYI...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

What will those employed by foreign automakers and their suppliers do?

They must not be "real" Americans...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

 

[JBGabriel 10+ year member]

i really wish people would stop buying foreign cars. If you have a foreign car, at least do us all a favor and buy an american made car too.
The fact that we live in the united states and buy nothing but foreign cars is horrible.

Ding ding ding! Another winner!

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

You intertwined my quote with his...give me credit mang.

 

[Lugnutz 10+ year member]

I doubt the American auto companies hold as big of a market share in Asia, as the Asians do in the US.

 

[endofdays89 5,000+ posts]

My "American" E-150 was made in Canada, FYI...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif


They must not be "real" Americans...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

No, i don't mind people buying foreign cars, but people don't even think for a second what it is doing to the companies here. We'll never be able to stop people from buying what they want so WTF.

I'm getting so sick of seeing stupid honda civics everywhere too, like there that ******* good? Why not spend that money on a mustang, much better car. Anybody ever heard of a pontiac, i heard there making good cars now.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I doubt the American auto companies hold as big of a market share in Asia, as the Asians do in the US.

GM and Ford have a very strong presence in China.