u guys are so funny here,half of you dont know shit about anything,you just hear something from a friend who heard something from a friend.just about every subwoofer company uses alittle something from another company,weather its basket design,motor structure,whatever.as for waiting over a year,hmmmm thats a tough one,i would be getting my $$$$ back if thats the case,i didnt have to wait more then a couple weeks.Well when i get my machines i will post pics for you guys to drool over,while your still listening to your funky pups and sony explodes doing 184db legal,hahaha you guys kill me