system tuning help needed

[azJETSclan]

Need a reputable system tuning in AZ

Im an old guy who lost my installer when I moved 2,000 miles. In AZ, I have been to TOOOO many places & unsatisfied. I found an installer that does GREAT custom work...BUT likes looking for pyramid type components (less than great quality) to maximize his bottom line. Don't get me wrong, he made RE sound pretty dam good! Now, because the names of brans have changed so much in 30 years, who is quality & whos an empty name. (I LOVED my phoenix gold gear in the 90s but was told its not even close to what it use to be) ALL that being said, I have a ton of shit & think it should sound better.

Alpine head unit, Audio dynamics 6 chan for 2 pair of AD separates & a pair of Rockford 8s (mid bass). Crossfire 1000 watt amp for 2 Crossfire C5 12's(in custom downward firing ported box). got the spare battery in the back, super battery under the hood & an HO alt. DSP Epicenter & just feel it should be sounding...MORE. I LOVE that I can hear the voice in music, bass kicks, but feels a little ...off? There is a song, Moog eruption made, digital orgasm that the bass in my 90s system hit so CLEAN & HARD...I have been chasing that & have yet to find it.

Long story short, How do I find someone that can tune it? Am I chasing a unicorn? My 1st installer put the system on a meter & measure dips. Current one...does it by ear....

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[azJETSclan]

AND JUST LIKE THAT...I had an installer get the EXACT sound I want/expected (turning up the gain to the RF 8s)...& smoked the speakers. (but lowered the volume before killing the 8s. So now ... what do I need to add to the system to replace the sound I had when I turned the gain up (but was to much for the speakers)

1 person suggested I take the mid/high speakers in the back door with a super tweeter, 10 & 8. My worry is I LOVE my SQ & am honestly not sure how that "replaces the mids/high fill from the back but get how the mid bass would be what I am looking for.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

If you had to turn the gain up that high maybe a different hu with a higher output voltage or a bigger amp so you won't need the gain sky high to get power

 

[chillin 10+ year member]

I may have missed it, but do you have sound deadener on the doors? If not that could be why you're lacking midbass.

 

[azJETSclan]

I may have missed it, but do you have sound deadener on the doors? If not that could be why you're lacking midbass.

I am SUPER late to reply...BUT, the whole car is dam near matted with deadening. (doors, trunk) I am finding myself in another dam pickle.

 

[huberoy123 10+ year member]

AND JUST LIKE THAT...I had an installer get the EXACT sound I want/expected (turning up the gain to the RF 8s)...& smoked the speakers. (but lowered the volume before killing the 8s. So now ... what do I need to add to the system to replace the sound I had when I turned the gain up (but was to much for the speakers)

1 person suggested I take the mid/high speakers in the back door with a super tweeter, 10 & 8. My worry is I LOVE my SQ & am honestly not sure how that "replaces the mids/high fill from the back but get how the mid bass would be what I am looking for.

Who told you to turn up the gain, and why?? I was always told that the gain was used to get the appropriate signal from the source, and not a volume knob. If the source is 4 volts, the gain should be set at 4 volts. Is this correct, or was I given bad information?

 

[GreyNBlueE92]

Sounds like you need more power going to the midbass, Id reccomend a bigger amp for the midbass because turning up the gain will just make them distort quicker. It will make them louder in relation to the other speakers but youre never going to get more than you already have by just turning the gain up. You need a bigger amp if you want that kind of volume, otherwise adjust the other speakers/subs so you have the same sound profile by turning the other speakers down and keeping the mid bass set where it is. You want to match the gain to your head unit or line out converter, whatever you have, and then you can adjust levels by turning the gain DOWN to achieve the sound you want. Turning it up will only limit the effective range of the volume knob... aka you are losing the ability to dial in the volume you'd like to listen at... the goal is to be able to turn the volume ALL the way up until the source starts to distort, that way you have complete control over your system. What you are looking for will come from a bigger amplifier, or possibly turning the other speakers down if you are okay with the current volume. You can adjust the speakers in relation to one another to achieve that sound but you will not get the spl without more power to back it!

 

[azJETSclan]

Who told you to turn up the gain, and why?? I was always told that the gain was used to get the appropriate signal from the source, and not a volume knob. If the source is 4 volts, the gain should be set at 4 volts. Is this correct, or was I given bad information?

Wasnt me. It was a different installer. But that was resolved, I just turned it back down & waited for the installer that did the work