Supplements?

[cpierce 5,000+ posts]

Because it's 2AM and the gym is closed!
And I know what you're saying about "a dollar for everytime you heard it" as.. I've gone through this same phase every few months.

I guess I just feel like I want to do something different than going to the gym. I want to see results quick (who doesn't?) to help me stay motivated. The first week, the gym is easy. Next week, I say to myself... ****, no results, oh well..

And yes, I know, 1 week I won't see results. It's just the way my mind works.

Get these two books and let us know how things are going in two months:thumbsup:

Abs Diet

Principles of Running

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

I need to lose weight too. I personally think it all comes down to is what you eat and how dedicated you want to be. Get those down and you will either lose weight or build muscle. I would be huge if I took some of those supplements though. I am 5-10 265 right now, but dont really look it. I only have 14% body fat. Not bad for almost 270 at my height.

 

[tapout 5,000+ posts]

I tend to lean more on the powerlifting side of things but if you've seen my pic on here then you know I can cut weight to. Everything that sno... I mean Randy has said has been correct(seems like I havent been giving him enough credit). For what you are trying to do the only suppliments you need are a good multi and protein.

 

[tapout 5,000+ posts]

A chick at 148 benching 402.

 

[22mountaineer 10+ year member]

Wake up thirty mins early, and run. Do not eat or drink before. Dont use real heavy weights if you work out just really light. When you cut your weight enough then start on the sup's and start working heavy if that is what you want to do. Dont go from being fat to straight lifitng hard and eating em up.

 

[Platestacker45 10+ year member]

A chick at 148 benching 402.

I've had all those people at my Powerlifting/Bodybuilding rat gym I used to run. They all workout there sometimes and host meets and seminars. Really nice people, but woulden't wanna piss them off.

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

That chick that benched that totally had her back arched. I thought you werent allowed to do that.

 

[Platestacker45 10+ year member]

That chick that benched that totally had her back arched. I thought you werent allowed to do that.

As long as your *** and both shoulder blades stay in contact with the bench. Arching is done to get your chest and sturnum up as high as possible, eleminating the distance between your chest and the bar. That is also why you grip as wide as possible on the bar.

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

I was always told that is the wrong way to lift and could really hurt yourself doing that.

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

Wake up thirty mins early, and run. Do not eat or drink before. Dont use real heavy weights if you work out just really light. When you cut your weight enough then start on the sup's and start working heavy if that is what you want to do. Dont go from being fat to straight lifitng hard and eating em up.

Most recommend not running on an empty stomach in the morning, as you have no carbs, and your body will break down muscle for energy.

HIIT seems to be the best way to go about cardio while trying to maintain muscle. I would recommend either doing HIIT sessions on your off training days, or do them right after your training.

Like I said earlier, I do 20min HIIT right after my training sessions. I used to do it 4 times a week, but now only do 2-3 as I do 1.5 hour hockey sessions twice a week and substitute that with my cardio.

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

I was always told that is the wrong way to lift and could really hurt yourself doing that.

As long as it's done properly it's fine. It's power lifting bench press. Arch back, and extend hips from what I've been told- although I've never done it- I just do traditional bench press.

 

[scottiej 10+ year member]

I would get rid of everything on that list except for the Whey and the multivitamin... maybe keep the Nitric Oxide, but only use it before you work out (as in, take it to the gym with you) Also, get the 5lb tub of Whey... you will run through the 2lb quick, especially if you're sharing it. You should intake 1g of protien for every pound of body weight to gain mass... dont forget to include the protein in your meals. If you decide to get creatine, dont waste it before the workout... if you want to see results quick take it right after you work out... and drink lots of water. It will help you retain some water in your muscles to make you appear bigger, but as soon as you stop working out it goes away. Oh yea... get more sleep... 2AM to 6AM does you no good.... you need 8 to 10hrs a night.

 

[Platestacker45 10+ year member]

I was always told that is the wrong way to lift and could really hurt yourself doing that.

Your lower back will be a little sore the first few times you try it. Woulden't really recommend arching to that extreme, unless your a powerlifter.

 

[mlstrass 5,000+ posts]

For what you are trying to do the only suppliments you need are a good multi and protein.

A man who knows of what he speaks. 99% of supplements, other than vitamin S will do NOTHING for you.

Multi vitamin cen be beneficial especially if cutting calories. Otherwise all the supplements you need to get big or lose weight are at your local grocery store.

Make your food the night before, do NOT skip meals. You must be consistent whether trying to gain or lose weight.

I also prefer HIIT cardio vs LSD (long slow distance) training. 2 weight sessions per week are plenty if doing whole body routines and pushing yourself hard.

I'm as strong at 42 as I was in my 20's. I lifted 5 times per week then and now lift 2 times per week for 1 hour max.

 

[QtrHorse 10+ year member]

Kenny, I'm w/ platestacker on this one. You are young and I'm sure most of your fat is baby fat. Your 5'11" and only 200 lbs. That does not sound that bad to me at all. I'm only 5'9" @ 189 and people constantly tell me I'm skinny.

I have been lucky, I have always had a high metabolism until I reached my thirties and then it slowed down somewhat.

Here are the things I would recommend. If you truelly want to lose weight, do lot's of cardio. That will burn the most calories the quickest and that is the key to losing weight (burn more calories than you are taking in). I had always ate junk food, ate late at night (after 10:00) and would take in a ton of calories per day. The three things that helped me the most were; start eating healthier, did more cardio (still not enough, I hate to run) and ate more small meals and would not eat after 7:00. When I say eat healthier, I don't mean to stop eating junk food but be a little more selective. If you have to eat fast food, get a grilled chicken breast sandwich w/ no mayo or cheese, no soda's and stay away from the fries. You will get a ton of protein from the chicken, tuna or turkey.

The supplements get very expensive. Towards the end, all I would buy were a multi vitamin, protein shake mix and protein bars to snack on durring the day. I lost my weight first and then bulked up a little.

As already stated, there is nothing wrong w/ being a little sore after a work out. You will be sore after any hard workout. I would only work out big muscles once every 6-8 days anway (legs, back, chest and shoulders).