Sundown SAZ-3000D Vs. Tru H-1

The Tru Technology amp is designed and manufactured here in the USA (well after ripping off the Korean company Abyss) unlike the Sundown that is made in your typical "me too", overseas, sweat shop, child labor abusing, build house. Nothing against Jacob, or Sundown, but there are just too many similar products that are coming out of the same build houses with different names slapped on them. Also, overseas build houses are the only way you are going to keep unit of production cost low.
Another thing is a status factor. Do you want to be like every other kiddie on ca.com who runs Sundown or do you want to show that you have balls and dare to be different by running something other than the current ca.com/SPL competition "boner" product? I can understand if you want to be like sheep and follow the herd, nothing wrong with that!
First off, IF Tru stole a design, then how much different is it compared to a "me too" amp?...........

Second, status factor? That Tru is not the best amp on the market. Are you the kind of guy that looks at another guy and wonders if his d1ck is bigger than yours? Come on. You think girls in bikinis are going to cream themselves because you have a ****ing Tru amp? No one cares what you run in your car. It's about you. If you want to run a specific product in your car to promote it, then that's different. That Sundown will walk all over that Tru in terms of efficiency. The Tru might have less distortion but it will not beat a Sundown for daily use and price. Your analogy is piss poor, just like your argument. I suggest you do more research before popping off your mouth about comparing a class AB to a D.

For extreme SQ setup- Tru

For everyday- Sundown

 
First off, IF Tru stole a design, then how much different is it compared to a "me too" amp?...........
Besides the fact that they are made in America, probably by immigrants, with imported components, I guess none:laugh:

Second, status factor? That Tru is not the best amp on the market.
Neither is Sundown, Mr. Sundown Audio dealer! Then again, I am sure you know those people who purchase something for the sheer fact of saying "I spent thousands of dollars on this!" After all, there are so many on this forum who want to run something because competitor (Insert Name Here) won an SPL competition with it:rolleyes:

Are you the kind of guy that looks at another guy and wonders if his d1ck is bigger than yours?
Nope... In fact, I use my huge dіck to compensate for my shіtty car!

OTOH, I can't speak for the kiddies who only care about decibel numbers from their sound systems:p: I suspect that many of them are cawk watchers comparing size in disguise:eek: Just be careful if they approach you with a bag of cheeseburgers asking for car audio products:wow: You just don't know what they will do if you won't take their cheeseburgers on a trade!

Come on. You think girls in bikinis are going to cream themselves because you have a ****ing Tru amp?
I'll go even further. If anyone thinks that those chicks in bikinis care about their loud sound systems, decibel numbers, or how many subwoofers they could cram into a vehicle, then they are a few cans short of a six pack! I hate to break it to you, but the hawt chicks DON'T CARE!

No one cares what you run in your car. It's about you. If you want to run a specific product in your car to promote it, then that's different.
That is kind of the point I was getting at. Does one want to be like everyone else because of competitions and trophies or does one have the balls to do whatever the hell they please?

With regards to my hobbies, I do what I want, when I want, without regard to why sometimes:crazy: The sheer fact that someone uses any product to gain recognition is normally a major turn off for me and forces me to look even harder for something else.

That Sundown will walk all over that Tru in terms of efficiency. The Tru might have less distortion but it will not beat a Sundown for daily use and price. Your analogy is piss poor, just like your argument. I suggest you do more research before popping off your mouth about comparing a class AB to a D.
My "argument" had nothing to do with Class AB versus Class D in this thread. It was more about having the balls to be different or being sheeple, following the herd, and saying "baaaaa, bbaaaaa" like everyone else!

 
I'll go even further. If anyone thinks that those chicks in bikinis care about their loud sound systems, decibel numbers, or how many subwoofers they could cram into a vehicle, then they are a few cans short of a six pack! I hate to break it to you, but the hawt chicks DON'T CARE!

obviously you have never been to a big show...there are hot chicks that do care...they just happen to be the age of your grand daughter...all chicks love a loud system...especially when it makes their juicebox wet.....//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 
Besides the fact that they are made in America, probably by immigrants, with imported components, I guess none:laugh:

Like it being made in America makes it a good product //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif It's an amplifier. 99 percent of the parts are from other countries. Running a Tru does not make you cooler and running a Sundown does not make you like everyone else. The Sundown is the superior choice because it's cheaper, more efficient and is the better choice for a daily driver and competition. Tru makes nice stuff, but I'm not going to drop a ton of money on an amplifier to prove a point.

 
obviously you have never been to a big show...there are hot chicks that do care...they just happen to be the age of your grand daughter...all chicks love a loud system...especially when it makes their juicebox wet.....//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

Oh that is sooo TRU, oh wait I meant True lol. Class AB has there place and it isn't in the sub stage at all just like a Class D has no place in the front stage. Companies just need to know there boundaries... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Polo.

 
you might want to get the right specs for a H1 also. the specs you are showing are for a SH-1 which is 2 H-1's linked in one chassis
H-1

1 x 600W @ 4 ohms (14.4V - 0.1% THD)

1 x 1000W @ 2 ohms (14.4V)

1 x 1500W @ 1 ohm (14.4V)

Fuse: External 120A

also if you want High end sql then go with the Tru
Sorry they are right, I have and always getting them mixed up.. I would comparing the sh-1 not h-1 just a type O sorry..

 
Ok buying the amp to look cool here is not an issue I am already cool. I own them already SH-1 H-1 Sundown 3000D Sundown 1500 and more... So lets skip the cool topic.. lol

I want to know will the tru amp "sound" better, louder, cleaner?

Yes they are 2 different amps I know I know.. A/B Vs D.. But it's one of the best A/B's out there and one of the most talked about Class D's.. I have both could run either..

Would a A/B amp such as this **** for BassRace & Bassboxing?

Would a A/B amp such as this sound good daily?

Would a A/B amp such as this sound good rock or rap? ( I am not sure the amp make a difference here ) LoL

Again I like sundown and not dissing them or jacob in anyway would never do that. I am just thinking about doing something different and wanted some imput..

So far it seems to be go with the sundown for everyday use or Tru if I want SQ. But nothing of how it would do in bass race or bass boxing since they are music based, I thought maybe it would be better..

I hope that clears things up..

 
I want to know will the tru amp "sound" better, louder, cleaner?
When you are dealing with such a small passband like sub-bass, it would be difficult to discern the differences between the two. I would hazard to lean towards the class AB unit in subtle musical nuances though.

Would a A/B amp such as this **** for BassRace & Bassboxing?
The AB amp will deliver the power it is rated for, provided you supply it enough resources to achieve that power output. It won't care what signal you are sending it. If it is rated at 1500 watts output, that's what it will give you.

Would a A/B amp such as this sound good daily?
See my statement above.

Would a A/B amp such as this sound good rock or rap? ( I am not sure the amp make a difference here ) LoL
You're right, it won't.

So far it seems to be go with the sundown for everyday use or Tru if I want SQ. But nothing of how it would do in bass race or bass boxing since they are music based, I thought maybe it would be better..
As stated, the amp won't care what you are using it for - it will deliver what it is rated at. Class AB amps will run warmer and will require more supply power to achieve its rated output, but it *will* deliver.

 
I own them already SH-1 H-1 Sundown 3000D Sundown 1500 and more... So lets skip the cool topic.. lol
I want to know will the tru amp "sound" better, louder, cleaner?

Since you already own them, why don't you install them and tell us? I hate to sound like an ***, but that will be the only surefire way to answer your questions!

In your case, I would agree with the masses and recommend the Sundown for competitions because that is what they are designed for!

As for the Tru, I was under the impression that was designed more for the audiophile snob who cares more about headroom and SQ than SPL. Don't get me wrong, it should be able to take being a competition amp with no problems. The downside is that I can almost guarantee with certainty that the Tru will maintain a higher average current draw with heat as a by product. That will work against you in a competition!

 
Why is this even being argued.

The Tru amp will sound better but take gobs more battery power to get the same wattage as the Sundown. Due to lower efficiency(class ab design drawback)

The Sundown will not be louder by no mean unless your incapable of powering the Tru amplifier. They are around the same wattage ratings, but Tru is underrated i know this for first hand experience with them. So i think the Tru will have it beat if you can feed its needs of course.

The Tru will sound light years better as long as your sub stage setup is setup correctly.

The Sundown will sound ok, good enough for most bass heads, but no where near good for the SQ freaks.

The Tru costs alot more than the Sundown, REMEMBER both are stable at 1 ohm loads. Someone said it wasnt but ive done it for years, no problems.

I ran 3 h1's at .75 ohm load each for 2 years without problems.(9 15's in a wall 3 per H1 amp) They are extremely underrated(as long as you have the battery power and decent input voltage)

So basically if your broke and on a budget then the sundown is for you. If you want the same amount of power or more and CAN afford the Tru and afford the extra batteries and upgrades necessary to power the Tru then your going to have a more diverse SQL sound system.

Remember that its very hard to find companies making class AB amps that put out that much power! Class D amp companies that put out that much power are a dime a dozen!

 
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