Substage Advice

[OCme]

Greetings all, I’ve been lurking on the forum for about three months now. I’m upgrading the sound system in my 2013 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited and I could use some advice for the low end. The Jeep has a 160 amp alternator. I think I can safely run about a 1,500 watt system without having to add an additional battery and/or upgrade my Jeeps charging system. I listen to mostly Old and classic Rock and Roll and Jazz.

This is what I have purchased so far

Head Unit:

Alpine CDE-HD 149BT

+ dash Kit - Metra 99-6511 In-dash Receiver Kit

+ (SWI) steering wheel Interface PAC RP4-CH11

+ iDatalink Connect ADS-HRN(SR)-CHR01 Interface Harness

+ Antenna adaptor - Metra 40-EU10 Antenna Adapter

+ Motorola Antenna Cable

+ IPOD cable - Alpine KCU-445i

Speakers for Front and Sound Bar:

JL Audio C3-650 convertible Component/Coaxial Speakers - X2 sets

4-Channel Amp:

Precision Power P900.4 145W X 4

Wire Kit:

Belva BAK44 - Complete 4 Gauge Amplifier Wiring Kit with 4-Channel RCA Interconnects (CCA Wiring)

What I was thinking about purchasing was a Image Dynamics IDMAX 12D2V.4 subwoofer and mounting it in a port tuned enclosure tuned to 32Htz and power it with a Sundown Audio SAE-1000D Monoblock @ 1ohm… Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated

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[Juicee 10+ year member]

That's what I was going to recommend before I read the last part. I'm sure you will be happy with the idmax. Although I would still recommend doing the big 3 if that wasn't planned already.

 

[OCme]

Ok, when I do the big three should I upgrade the Jeep's existing battery? I noticed some of the people with high end systems seem to like Optima yellow top battery.

 

[mylows10 5,000+ posts]

Up grade to a agm. Dump the cca 4 gauge kit. Not gonna work well with 1500 rms

 

[Juicee 10+ year member]

It certainly would not hurt to do so. But if you are going to buy another battery I would just add it to the system rather than replace what is there.

 

[OCme]

Thought 1/0G was used for the "big 3" and 4G was used to the 2 power amps. I was going to use a 60A fuse for the mid amp and 100A fuse for the Bass amp. If I keep the system to 1500watts won’t this be sufficient?

 

[OCme]

It certainly would not hurt to do so. But if you are going to buy another battery I would just add it to the system rather than replace what is there.

I was under the impression a second battery is never a good idea unless the alternator is upgraded or modified as it's an added strain on the alternator to charge two batteries AND supply power for the car.

 

[Juicee 10+ year member]

That may be true, I've done it in the past on around the same power with no issue though. Didn't catch it earlier but I would also recommend some 1/0 for the sundown as well.

 

[OCme]

That may be true, I've done it in the past on around the same power with no issue though. Didn't catch it earlier but I would also recommend some 1/0 for the sundown as well.

ok, will do...is 4G ok for the Precision Power P900.4 mid amp?

 

[mylows10 5,000+ posts]

0 gauge wire cca will be fine on a sae 1000. The sub is nice to well over priced at $400 new. There is better. a new tantric md 12 d2 I would go for $240 shipped. Would sound every bit as good sq wise than the id max and take more power

 

[OCme]

0 gauge wire cca will be fine on a sae 1000. The sub is nice to well over priced at $400 new. There is better. a new tantric md 12 d2 I would go for $240 shipped. Would sound every bit as good sq wise than the id max and take more power

I appreciate your advice and will get this sub you recommended instead If it sounds better and is cheaper. Is the Sundown a good power amp for it, or would the precision power 1000D be a better choice, or would you have another recommendation?

 

[mylows10 5,000+ posts]

I appreciate your advice and will get this sub you recommended instead If it sounds better and is cheaper. Is the Sundown a good power amp for it, or would the precision power 1000D be a better choice, or would you have another recommendation?

The sae is a decent amp. Between the 2 is take it the tantric md is a neatly little sub. I have one just sitting here now. It wouldn't fit the application I got it for

 

[OCme]

0 gauge wire cca will be fine on a sae 1000. The sub is nice to well over priced at $400 new. There is better. a new tantric md 12 d2 I would go for $240 shipped. Would sound every bit as good sq wise than the id max and take more power

I checked out the Tantric Sounds MD 12 D2... looks ****. If you were buying an amp to power it what would you use? I really appreciate every ones help

 

[mylows10 5,000+ posts]

I checked out the Tantric Sounds MD 12 D2... looks ****. If you were buying an amp to power it what would you use? I really appreciate every ones help

The sae will be fine

 

[OCme]

Sorry, posted before I read your reply... ok, then I'll get the Sundown SAE 1000