Starting DJ buisness,advice 4 equipment

[noob with an RS 10+ year member]

but if you rap youll get the old ladies to get jiggy with it on the dance floor thus proclaiming yourself as the ultimate boogie dj meister

 

[brandontw 10+ year member]

JBL eon's are a pretty nice speaker, they sound suprisingly clear and smooth, and they are very durable, and portable. They are affordable and come in many different versions including, powered, unpowered, and 10", 12", and 15"

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

You're a videographer as well? You know what you're getting into by doing both, right? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Most of the weddings around here that we do don't have DJ's, they have live bands, so the equipment considerations are a bit different //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif The last one was way overpowered for the venue; like a 250 seat ballroom and their main stacks were easily 10' high. Sounded good, but just a tad too loud //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

Well.... The things is all in how you have the system tuned.... JBL speakers are actually pretty harsh in the high end when they are ran flat, but most people when tuning them down take too much high end out of them which gives them that “mud” or “mid” sound. You are correct in saying that most DJ system sound muddy and not good at all, every time I go to a concert or party I usually cringe when I have to listen to the PA. It is because they do not have them tuned correctly. Most people have no ears for tuning and they do not understand the idea of a "natural" sound. They want "BASS" which means they have too much midrange too. If you want ultra amounts of clarity go with Meyer Ultra Powered Series (UPA or UPJ), but that is WAY out of your budget unless you really want to go into a killer system. You also have not said how much you would be willing to spend on the compete system either, that would help a lot.

Yorkville's are very clean and pretty well setup. Another speaker if you are looking for clarity is Bag End which are cheaper than Meyers but will need external amps. I still stick with the 12" Mid Woofer and a horn is the best PA Loudspeaker setup of all time.

Basically how much can you tune on your own? How experienced are you with this type of equipment? And, how much is your TOTAL budget for this DJ system?

 

[Megalomaniac 5,000+ posts]

Well.... The things is all in how you have the system tuned.... JBL speakers are actually pretty harsh in the high end when they are ran flat, but most people when tuning them down take too much high end out of them which gives them that “mud” or “mid” sound. You are correct in saying that most DJ system sound muddy and not good at all, every time I go to a concert or party I usually cringe when I have to listen to the PA. It is because they do not have them tuned correctly. Most people have no ears for tuning and they do not understand the idea of a "natural" sound. They want "BASS" which means they have too much midrange too. If you want ultra amounts of clarity go with Meyer Ultra Powered Series (UPA or UPJ), but that is WAY out of your budget unless you really want to go into a killer system. You also have not said how much you would be willing to spend on the compete system either, that would help a lot.
Yorkville's are very clean and pretty well setup. Another speaker if you are looking for clarity is Bag End which are cheaper than Meyers but will need external amps. I still stick with the 12" Mid Woofer and a horn is the best PA Loudspeaker setup of all time.

Basically how much can you tune on your own? How experienced are you with this type of equipment? And, how much is your TOTAL budget for this DJ system?

budget...not really wanting to go more than $2000 for the speakers and amps

 

[Megalomaniac 5,000+ posts]

You're a videographer as well? You know what you're getting into by doing both, right? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
Most of the weddings around here that we do don't have DJ's, they have live bands, so the equipment considerations are a bit different //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif The last one was way overpowered for the venue; like a 250 seat ballroom and their main stacks were easily 10' high. Sounded good, but just a tad too loud //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Video-Spots we are soldiers when it comes to video and audio,nothing will stop us ,we can handle it:up2somet:

 

[Megalomaniac 5,000+ posts]

JBL eon's are a pretty nice speaker, they sound suprisingly clear and smooth, and they are very durable, and portable. They are affordable and come in many different versions including, powered, unpowered, and 10", 12", and 15"

yeah right....

I really want to stay away from JBL

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

Hey I dont blame you. We call JBL Junk But Loud.... Which is what most people are looking for.

For that price Meyer and Bag End are going to be too much money. Which leaves Yorkville and EV. Do you have anything against Electro-Voice or the Canadians? lol..

So $2000 for good quality Pro-Amps and Pro-Speakers.... Hmmmm

Well lets say you go with 4 top boxes and 2 subs total (2 top boxes and 1 sub perside)

That would be only $333.33 per speaker not include amplification and processors.

If you wanted to go with 2 top boxes and 2 subs (1 top box and 1 sub perside)

That would still only be $500 per speaker not including amplification and processors.

So, my point being don't expect too much out of $2000.

Ok, so lets say you went with the smallest system I would use for 200+ ppl.

2 Meyer UPA-1A and 1 PSW-4 Perside (these are powered so you don't need amps or processors)

2x $2500 + 1x $1875 = $6875 perside so $13750 Def Out of Budget...

So, lets see if we go cheap with something from EV which isn't going to sound nearly as good but would get the job done.

2x (Eliminator i Double) $660 + 1x (Eliminator i Sub) $500 = $1820 per side so $3640 which is OB

Plus amplification.... 4x QSC RMX2450 (4x $650 = $2600)

Added together total $6240

OR

2x (SXa250) $799 + 1x (Sba760) $1500 = $3098 perside so $6196 which is OB but powered.

Point being.... Get a bigger budget or work smaller gigs or get some really crappy gear.

I would go witht he powered SXa250 and the Sba760 system if I was you...

 

[80INCHES 5,000+ posts]

get 1 of these(i use to build pa boxes for my freind and with 2 of these he would shake onings on houses)

http://www.fane-acoustics.com/public_html/media/pdf_media/COL15B_600.PDF

use this plate amp for it(if u choose to go this route)

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-808

for rack amp (if u want to run it straight from the amp which i would do but u need other processors to let it play specific frequencies)

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=245-466

and heres a more efficient horn

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=280-050&CFID=1989966&CFTOKEN=88071990

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[80INCHES 5,000+ posts]

Hey I dont blame you. We call JBL Junk But Loud.... Which is what most people are looking for.
For that price Meyer and Bag End are going to be too much money. Which leaves Yorkville and EV. Do you have anything against Electro-Voice or the Canadians? lol..

whoa u said bagend

that good stuff right there

but imma take it back even further.,............COMMUNITY PROFFESIONAL LOUDSPEAKERS:up2somet:

i know that rings alot of bells

i still have there old catologs

80

 

[ballstothewall 10+ year member]

If you want a different rack amp, I might be willing to sell my Behringer EP2500 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

no offense 80, but... eeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...

 

[80INCHES 5,000+ posts]

no offense 80, but... eeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...

why eww

thats good stuff right there

80

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

why ewwthats good stuff right there

80

That mid horn doesn't have my attention.

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

whoa u said bagendthat good stuff right there

but imma take it back even further.,............COMMUNITY PROFFESIONAL LOUDSPEAKERS:up2somet:

i know that rings alot of bells

i still have there old catologs

80

Community Does make some killer stuff. We use the R2's R6's and R.5HP's for a lot of our Dime Store Stuff. Back in the day we used to use the Install Series stuff for churches and such type things. Also, I'm not sure they model but we call them Jr's (Juniors) they are a 1.5 inch horn with 2x 8's. They will scream, and sound beautiful doing it.

no offense 80, but... eeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...

What's wrong with Community J? I'm not a huge fan of their new stuff outside of the R series but they still sound better than some.