So why dont 3 way components run an 8 in?

[The Camry]

plan is too run a 3 way set. tweets and midrange on a-pillars. both on axis to me. L and R a pillars.

Source seperate components. if ima spend 550$ on HSK 163. what compares in that price range?

 

[mylows10 5,000+ posts]

Cdt has a 3 wat set with 8" miss

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

plan is too run a 3 way set. tweets and midrange on a-pillars. both on axis to me. L and R a pillars.
Source seperate components. if ima spend 550$ on HSK 163. what compares in that price range?

Can you spend a bit more and go with the XL set adding the 3in mid? That's what I was going to do if rear fill didn't work out. You will want them off axis though.

 

[The Camry]

Can you spend a bit more and go with the XL set adding the 3in mid? That's what I was going to do if rear fill didn't work out. You will want them off axis though.

The hsk 163? those have the 4 in mid and a 6.5 midbass.

or what do u mean?

The xl set is 2 way component. where do i get a 3 in mid?

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

The hsk 163? those have the 4 in mid and a 6.5 midbass.
or what do u mean?

The xl set is 2 way component. where do i get a 3 in mid?

Running active right? Add the HSK mid range to play mid range. Use the XL woofer for only mid bass

 

[The Camry]

Running active right? Add the HSK mid range to play mid range. Use the XL woofer for only mid bass

and then go find myself a tweeter?

and yes, active. of course >.

 

[The Camry]

Can you spend a bit more and go with the XL set adding the 3in mid? That's what I was going to do if rear fill didn't work out. You will want them off axis though.

Also, i think on axis/off axis is a mute point(not counting beaming/reflections) if you have processing to deal with that. Some of the processors out there have like -12db or more(less?) cuts so you can really balance out output from the speakers.

 

[whitedragon551 5,000+ posts]

I heard those in a top notch setup paired with scanspeak ring radiators and 6.5" revelators on the dash. Processing was done by the alpine dsp and I think the sub was under the glove in the front. Blended perfectly.
Worth noting, delaying the entire front stage a few ms with respect to the substage does wonders for bringing the bass forward.

Time alignment is based on your listening position. You dont delay the entire front stage with the same delay.

 

[whitedragon551 5,000+ posts]

Also, i think on axis/off axis is a mute point(not counting beaming/reflections) if you have processing to deal with that. Some of the processors out there have like -12db or more(less?) cuts so you can really balance out output from the speakers.

Its not a mute point. On/Off Axis directly affects beaming and reflections and no tuning in the world can fix that. Thats why speaker placement is so important.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Also, i think on axis/off axis is a mute point(not counting beaming/reflections) if you have processing to deal with that. Some of the processors out there have like -12db or more(less?) cuts so you can really balance out output from the speakers.

Speakers react different on and off axis. You may want to study that.

Use the HT28. It's way better than the 25

 

[The Camry]

Speakers react different on and off axis. You may want to study that.
Use the HT28. It's way better than the 25

i understand the output level difference in on/off axis. Thats exactly what i meant. If the right speaker is facing me and the left speaker is off axis. My left speaker should be quieter. Depending on what freq its playing of course.

 

[The Camry]

Its not a mute point. On/Off Axis directly affects beaming and reflections and no tuning in the world can fix that. Thats why speaker placement is so important.

Speaker size - Beaming Freq (assuming 86°F)

1" - 13,750Hz

2" - 6,880Hz

3" - 4,950Hz

4" - 3,440Hz

5.25" - 2,620Hz

6.5" - 2,120Hz

7" - 1,970Hz

8" - 1,720Hz

10" - 1,380Hz

12" - 1,150Hz

4in midrange beams at 3.4khz on axis. How is beaming affected off axis??

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

i understand the output level difference in on/off axis. Thats exactly what i meant. If the right speaker is facing me and the left speaker is off axis. My left speaker should be quieter. Depending on what freq its playing of course.

Not what I was talking about. Have you ever looked at a FR graph?

 

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Speaker size - Beaming Freq (assuming 86°F) 1" - 13,750Hz

2" - 6,880Hz

3" - 4,950Hz

4" - 3,440Hz

5.25" - 2,620Hz

6.5" - 2,120Hz

7" - 1,970Hz

8" - 1,720Hz

10" - 1,380Hz

12" - 1,150Hz

4in midrange beams at 3.4khz on axis. How is beaming affected off axis??

This is a base line. Come shape and material will raise or lower it. You can see a drivers beaming point on a graph.

 

[whitedragon551 5,000+ posts]

Speaker size - Beaming Freq (assuming 86°F) 1" - 13,750Hz

2" - 6,880Hz

3" - 4,950Hz

4" - 3,440Hz

5.25" - 2,620Hz

6.5" - 2,120Hz

7" - 1,970Hz

8" - 1,720Hz

10" - 1,380Hz

12" - 1,150Hz

4in midrange beams at 3.4khz on axis. How is beaming affected off axis??

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[fly_marlin]

Time alignment is based on your listening position. You dont delay the entire front stage with the same delay.

That's right and that's not at all what I said. I said with respect to the substage. Once everything is delayed for the listening position, you delay everything even more by the same amount so that it's in sync with the substage. Since we were only talking about blending front stage with the subs, that's all I noted.