Sick of feeling like I have to celebrate Easter and other religious holidays.

Okay, first off, I read parts of other threads bashing religion and evolution and such. I felt like I needed some insight anyway.
So I'm an Atheist/Anti-theist. You have the right to celebrate whatever religion you'd like. I can respect that right. . . as an American, but also as a human being. On the other hand I can't really understand it. It seems crazy to me (and you absolutely may disagree) that people dedicate so much of their time to something that does not exist. It'd be like me claiming that some little blue-skinned people inhabit my back yard. There's no way around it. They don't and he doesn't. I get that it's "faith" that carries religion along its way. What's the point of having faith in something non-existent? Seems wasteful to me. There are so many real causes in the world that need more dedication.

Secondly, why do people lie to children? Santa exists? No. The Easter Bunny? The Tooth Fairy. No and no. So why do we tell children that they do? Why not fill the heads of children from a young age the truth about the world? People are hungry. Help them. People are wasteful, don't be. People are greedy. Don't be. . . which includes expecting gifts for Holidays based on disillusion. I don't have kids yet, but mine will not be lied to. At least that's what I say when my fiance isn't arguing with me about it.

Why must we support corporate greed and lies based on tradition? I guess I just needed to vent. I'm sure I could go on and on.

Thanks for any thoughtful comments you may add. No reason to just make vicious attacks. . .
Let me first say I ahve not read any further than the OP's first post.

As a Christian, I understand your issue. I would say that before Henry Ford, there was no weekend, there were jsut 7 days, 7 days for men to work (if your not religious and keep the sabbath) Now we all basically think it is our right to have Saturday and Sunday off. For me, I like it, for productivity, it may get more done for the short term to do away with the weekend, but you would find that people would get run down and depressed over the long term. This is why Mr. Ford decided to make it standard issue for his workers to have a weekend. It actually increased productivity.

The same can be said for the holidays, (religious or not) they give us something to look forward to in a ho hum world.

As for the corporate greed thing during the holidays, just imagine what our economy would be like without the holiday spike? There are companies that lose money all year to make all their losses back and make a profit in the last 2 months of the year. All this money doesn't go to the execs, at the top, it pays many tiers of lower employees, not only in the company that sells the products directly, but the distribution, manufacture...

Think of it this way, how fast could a child get out of school, if they never had a break, take away winter, spring and summer breaks, go from kindergarden to college. They would graduate from Yale at the age of 18! Now practically what percentage of the student body do you think would make it? not very much I would guess.

We enjoy the holidays, all of them, nonbelivers have made them into a pill that they can swollow, all because they like the excitement of them also.

You can take this whole "how much good it can do for the world" thing to the ENth, and say with your car and all the audio that is in it, how many people could you feed?

Are you willing to give up all your creature comforts to send a bag of rice to Africa? I'm not.

 
The truth is so much of our society is based from religious beginnings and there is simply no way to seperate them from everyday life, no matter if you believe in God, Budda, money or your left toe. We simply have a society based on a religious foundation.

 
Okay, first off, I read parts of other threads bashing religion and evolution and such. I felt like I needed some insight anyway.
So I'm an Atheist/Anti-theist. You have the right to celebrate whatever religion you'd like. I can respect that right. . . as an American, but also as a human being. On the other hand I can't really understand it. 1. It seems crazy to me (and you absolutely may disagree) that people dedicate so much of their time to something that does not exist. 2. It'd be like me claiming that some little blue-skinned people inhabit my back yard.There's no way around it. They don't and he doesn't. I get that it's "faith" that carries religion along its way. What's the point of having faith in something non-existent? Seems wasteful to me. There are so many real causes in the world that need more dedication.

3. Secondly, why do people lie to children? Santa exists? No. The Easter Bunny? The Tooth Fairy. No and no. So why do we tell children that they do? Why not fill the heads of children from a young age the truth about the world? People are hungry. Help them. People are wasteful, don't be. People are greedy. Don't be. . . which includes expecting gifts for Holidays based on disillusion. I don't have kids yet, but mine will not be lied to. At least that's what I say when my fiance isn't arguing with me about it.

4. Why must we support corporate greed and lies based on tradition? I guess I just needed to vent. I'm sure I could go on and on.

Thanks for any thoughtful comments you may add. No reason to just make vicious attacks. . .
1. That is opinion not fact.

2. It is NOTHING like that at all. Religion is based on first hand spiritual accounts, witnesses, and documented events. The Bible is not a book of fictional fairytales written by one person.

3. Yes, lets take away the innocence of childhood, the joy of giving, and charity, and lets replace with the "real" world. Your going to teach your kids about the slaughter of people all over the world? The drugs, the crime, the evil in this world? You going to teach your son or daughter about child molestation? How about when terroists cut the heads off American's, you going to show them some videos of it? Because that is a LARGE part of the real world. Yeah that sounds real healthy for a small child. They will have pleasant dreams.

4. You don't need to do anything. People choose to be charitable, and loving towards their family, friends, or even strangers by giving gifts, and candy to children. A gift isn't about the money being spent, heck money doesn't need to be spent at all. It's about the fact that you are sacrificing something to make another happy. Yeah that sounds horrible.

Open your mind and stop being ignorant. Your viewing eveything very one sided, and not very indepth. You post your atheist beliefs/questions as if they are fact, when the only fact is that your thinking is very flawed.

Do the world, and your potential child a favor, and do NOT reproduce.

 
The truth is so much of our society is based from religious beginnings and there is simply no way to seperate them from everyday life, no matter if you believe in God, Budda, money or your left toe. We simply have a society based on a religious foundation.
exactly, so even aethist are living by religous morals, which translated in to society and laws throughout the course of history. But then they question the traditions and beliefs of those they actualy derive their moral character from.

 
why are we talking religion in an easter thread? i for one am having a blast eating cadbury eggs and chocolate covered pretzels in celebration of Peter Cottontail's birthday.

Howd the story go again? He was born from a virgin rabbit and then moved a boulder or something? isnt that why we celebrate easter??? haha

 
^^^Thats cool to make fun of peoples beliefs, some whom feel so strongly that they devote their life to their faith. Real mature. If you don't know the meaning of Easter or care to know, or even if you know and you choose to act like an *** toward the whole notion, then do not celebrate whatsoever or even comment. I do celebrate Easter for the proper reasons, even though I may not be a perfect Christian. It's highly disrespectful to make fun of the resurrection of Christ. You may not have faith, but take something you feel strongly about, say your mother, father, son, daughter, anyone, then have somebody kick them in the face and disrespect them...... funny?

 
^^^Thats cool to make fun of peoples beliefs, some whom feel so strongly that they devote their life to their faith. Real mature. If you don't know the meaning of Easter or care to know, or even if you know and you choose to act like an *** toward the whole notion, then do not celebrate whatsoever or even comment. I do celebrate Easter for the proper reasons, even though I may not be a perfect Christian. It's highly disrespectful to make fun of the resurrection of Christ. You may not have faith, but take something you feel strongly about, say your mother, father, son, daughter, anyone, then have somebody kick them in the face and disrespect them...... funny?
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which commandment states "thou shall not laugh at a joke"???? haha lighten up chief.

For your information, Swat came into my house, disrespected my whole family!

 
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which commandment states "thou shall not laugh at a joke"???? haha lighten up chief.

For your information, Swat came into my house, disrespected my whole family!
just sayin, your comparing the son of millions/billions of peoples God, to a bunny rabbit.

 
just sayin, your comparing the son of millions/billions of peoples God, to a bunny rabbit.
if there was any real proof that jesus christ was the son of god and not just some crazy whacko like all the other whackos that claim they are the son of god i might be a little more respectful.... hell if there was proof i would believe.

but there isnt so to me jesus christ isnt any better than elron hubbard or all the other guys weve called crazy for starting cults. your opinion is to believe, mine is to not believe. to each his own.

ive stirred the pot enough in the last few days, just tried to lighten the mood with delicious candies and cute little furry bunnies.

 
if there was any real proof that jesus christ was the son of god and not just some crazy whacko like all the other whackos that claim they are the son of god i might be a little more respectful.... hell if there was proof i would believe.
but there isnt so to me jesus christ isnt any better than elron hubbard or all the other guys weve called crazy for starting cults. your opinion is to believe, mine is to not believe. to each his own.

ive stirred the pot enough in the last few days, just tried to lighten the mood with delicious candies and cute little furry bunnies.
why don't you look alittle harder. Can you honestly say you exauhsted all your reasources in a search of proof? Or do you just say "that's not possible, so it didn't happen"? Because there is much proof about Jesus and his miracles witnessed by MANY, and documented. What about the documented crucification of Jesus, and his ressurection? You think one person witnessed Jesus and his miracles then set off to create a religion? Poor excuse man. What proof do you want? You want God to tell you personally? that is why there is faith. You go through your entire life blowing everything off unless it is proved right in front of your face?

 
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