exactly,St. nicholas (sp?) was a real person. no he didnt deliver to the whole world but at some point he did deliver presents to some.
we tell kids these stories to keep them children. to keep them enjoying the greatest times in life. make them stay innocent as long as we can. they shouldnt have to worry about how life sucks.
i hope you figure this out before you have children. or else i feel really bad for them.
nothinWhat's bull about it? What's wrong with having a conversation and spreading a little knowledge?
there you go.I consider myself an atheist.
I celebrate these types of holidays for the fun of it.
Seriously, who the hell gets all uber religious when it comes to easter or christmas?
To me, these are days to be with family and have fun.
there are so many atheist vs christian , catholic views and arguments its sick... why make a thread about it.. youtube it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif i just wondered what would happen if you took the most Knowledgeable person in every branch of religion and had them debate there own truth and belief of why , how you get to heaven , if there is a god , why is there war , peace and despair ..Okay, first off, I read parts of other threads bashing religion and evolution and such. I felt like I needed some insight anyway.
So I'm an Atheist/Anti-theist. You have the right to celebrate whatever religion you'd like. I can respect that right. . . as an American, but also as a human being. On the other hand I can't really understand it. It seems crazy to me (and you absolutely may disagree) that people dedicate so much of their time to something that does not exist. It'd be like me claiming that some little blue-skinned people inhabit my back yard. There's no way around it. They don't and he doesn't. I get that it's "faith" that carries religion along its way. What's the point of having faith in something non-existent? Seems wasteful to me. There are so many real causes in the world that need more dedication.
Secondly, why do people lie to children? Santa exists? No. The Easter Bunny? The Tooth Fairy. No and no. So why do we tell children that they do? Why not fill the heads of children from a young age the truth about the world? People are hungry. Help them. People are wasteful, don't be. People are greedy. Don't be. . . which includes expecting gifts for Holidays based on disillusion. I don't have kids yet, but mine will not be lied to. At least that's what I say when my fiance isn't arguing with me about it.
Why must we support corporate greed and lies based on tradition? I guess I just needed to vent. I'm sure I could go on and on.
Thanks for any thoughtful comments you may add. No reason to just make vicious attacks. . .
Don't ever have kids.Okay, first off, I read parts of other threads bashing religion and evolution and such. I felt like I needed some insight anyway.
So I'm an Atheist/Anti-theist. You have the right to celebrate whatever religion you'd like. I can respect that right. . . as an American, but also as a human being. On the other hand I can't really understand it. It seems crazy to me (and you absolutely may disagree) that people dedicate so much of their time to something that does not exist. It'd be like me claiming that some little blue-skinned people inhabit my back yard. There's no way around it. They don't and he doesn't. I get that it's "faith" that carries religion along its way. What's the point of having faith in something non-existent? Seems wasteful to me. There are so many real causes in the world that need more dedication.
Secondly, why do people lie to children? Santa exists? No. The Easter Bunny? The Tooth Fairy. No and no. So why do we tell children that they do? Why not fill the heads of children from a young age the truth about the world? People are hungry. Help them. People are wasteful, don't be. People are greedy. Don't be. . . which includes expecting gifts for Holidays based on disillusion. I don't have kids yet, but mine will not be lied to. At least that's what I say when my fiance isn't arguing with me about it.
Why must we support corporate greed and lies based on tradition? I guess I just needed to vent. I'm sure I could go on and on.
Thanks for any thoughtful comments you may add. No reason to just make vicious attacks. . .