Saying bye to DD.

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

I still think I can. To be honest I'm not expecting much if any difference. I hope there isn't much because it's pretty **** good now. A sealed 12 will look better the way I want to finish the trunk. And yes there is a amp I always wanted. It's all cosmetic at this point. For the weak links. Judges are bias. They have to inspect the car before they listen to it. I don't want a judge listening to something that they already know is going to sound bad.

Excatly.. its not realistic. Its called physcoacoustics.

The system is flawed

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Bout time u realize how Gay DD is //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/up2something.gif.dd110ecf3ae4b76050d87598f2f8de7c.gif muhhahahaha

Yeah this ID is good. For a $200 woofer made in the US it's really good. For a top SQ sub doing what it's doing it's **** good.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Excatly.. its not realistic. Its called physcoacoustics. The system is flawed

Yeah just like you think you can hear 5% THD and a class D amp switching faster then a brain can register.

 

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You guys realize that the "ignore" feature on this site still works, right?

What fun would that be?

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Yeah just like you think you can hear 5% THD and a class D amp switching faster then a brain can register. 

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What fun would that be?

yea i can register the difference between um. n doubt. and you fail to realize its HOW the signal is reproduced.

it has to be filtered @ the outputs.

in a sub Id say not likely. it takes about 5 to 10% to hear from a sub. depending on what TYPE of distortion it may be closer to 20%.

in a fullrange setup yes, no doubt i've heard PLENTY.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

yea i can register the difference between um. n doubt. and you fail to realize its HOW the signal is reproduced. it has to be filtered @ the outputs.

in a sub Id say not likely. it takes about 5 to 10% to hear from a sub. depending on what TYPE of distortion it may be closer to 20%.

in a fullrange setup yes, no doubt i've heard PLENTY.

I guess you are the one true golden ear. You're special in more ways then one. Truly unique.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

I guess you are the one true golden ear. You're special in more ways then one. Truly unique.

even SQ competitors agree with me.

Car Audio | DiyMobileAudio.com | Car Stereo Forum

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

even SQ competitors agree with me.Car Audio | DiyMobileAudio.com | Car Stereo Forum

You can't even link right.

I'm a SQ competitor and I don't. And if you actually knew how to use a forum you would find many threads of competitors that agree with me and a few audiofools that end up swapping very expensive gear every week because they don't understand how it works. They agree with you.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Go over there a make a poll

Can you hear a difference in amps when level matched?

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Go over there a make a pollCan you hear a difference in amps when level matched?

when you understand how amps work then it gives you and idea of the differences in the output signal and HOW THEY CONTROL THE DRIVER.

in the case of 80 to 100db levels where your not pushing the gear near its limits and use enough processing to eliminate any issues yes it is hard to distinguish. class D switches off or on. a a/b c g h are all of linear design. meaning the have a "rise " and "fall" in a linear fashion. class d is anything but linear. the fundamental structure of the wave form is an actual SQUARE WAVE that needs filtration and inductive load.

if you have recordings in high enough resolution the natural characteristics that make each individual sound unique. no amplifier will sound as realistic as the instrument itself but it can get really **** close. that being said every time you convert a signal from one form to another you get losses. its a scientific fact. D/a to A/D now is pretty **** good but it will not match the pure form of the signal. if the signal is digital in nature creating an analog signal you will have losses. same with analog to digital. thats excatly why sampling rate and bit-rate matter. there is MORE INFORMATION BEING "READ"

will the calls D/t amps sound good properly designed? absolutely will it sound better than analog amps? by nature of the processing to recreate the waveform you are creating a unnatural wave form in which sound is made using essentially DC signals that have a pulse width and very fast rise/falls times and relying on the inductive and capacitive nature of the capacitors and inductor in the circuit.

the only reason the voltmeter reads it as AC is because it goes threw the meter.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

when you understand how amps work then it gives you and idea of the differences in the output signal and HOW THEY CONTROL THE DRIVER.in the case of 80 to 100db levels where your not pushing the gear near its limits and use enough processing to eliminate any issues yes it is hard to distinguish. class D switches off or on. a a/b c g h are all of linear design. meaning the have a "rise " and "fall" in a linear fashion. class d is anything but linear. the fundamental structure of the wave form is an actual SQUARE WAVE that needs filtration and inductive load.

if you have recordings in high enough resolution the natural characteristics that make each individual sound unique. no amplifier will sound as realistic as the instrument itself but it can get really **** close. that being said every time you convert a signal from one form to another you get losses. its a scientific fact. D/a to A/D now is pretty **** good but it will not match the pure form of the signal. if the signal is digital in nature creating an analog signal you will have losses. same with analog to digital. thats excatly why sampling rate and bit-rate matter. there is MORE INFORMATION BEING "READ"

will the calls D/t amps sound good properly designed? absolutely will it sound better than analog amps? by nature of the processing to recreate the waveform you are creating a unnatural wave form in which sound is made using essentially DC signals that have a pulse width and very fast rise/falls times and relying on the inductive and capacitive nature of the capacitors and inductor in the circuit.

the only reason the voltmeter reads it as AC is because it goes threw the meter.

Go make the poll. We all know how it works. Those of us that build for perfection know the amp won't make a difference. Something you have never done. So stop arguing with someone that does. Btw one of our test is hearing the shaker move and change speed in Spanish Harlem.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

How Well Can You Hear Audio Quality? : The Record : NPR

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

How Well Can You Hear Audio Quality? : The Record : NPR

That's bit rate tard

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

4 out of 6 on my laptop and 6 out of 6 plug to my home stereo.. just thought it was a cool find

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

4 out of 6 on my laptop and 6 out of 6 plug to my home stereo.. just thought it was a cool find

Those are easy. Just like comparing 96 to lossless.

Go make the poll or are you scared?

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

That's bit rate tard

no **** sherlock. you think amplifiers don't have the same type of reconstruction? they all amplify the signal they all do it differently. some are higher roesolution than others.

lower noise floors more dynamic better stereo separation. although there really isn't a spec for it like bitrate things like SN ratio, slew rate, damping ratio amount countless other measurable parameters that describe how well the amp does certain things. that being said any highend amp is going to surpass most of the audible limits but to say D even substandard amps will sound as good as amp that have feedback to increase damping lower noise floors to separation of supply and outputs(optically is t he best IMO) has individual power supplies for each stereo channel etc. make a audible difference.