range rover or rare xterra?

[eharri3 10+ year member]

Im sorry but I have to disagree, smart people dont lease, unless its a business expense/tax right-off. Or unless they dont mind building absolutely no equity every single month with their car payments.
Leases are for company vehicles, and chumps.

Im talking about the people who are in a place in life where the smart thing actually IS to lease, or else who have so much that it really doesn't matter worth a **** whether they build equity in a vehicle as long as they can get rid of it in a convenient fashion when they're tired of it and want to move on. Not the idiots on 40K/yr salaries who do it just because it's the only way they can get into the brand new vehicle that they want.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Im talking about the people who are in a place in life where the smart thing actually IS to lease, or else who have so much that it really doesn't matter worth a **** whether they build equity in a vehicle.

If you are rich, losing even more equity by leasing, rather than simply purchasing the car you could presumably afford, is not smart. For the rest of us, again, unless its a company fleet vehicle benefiting from a tax incentive, leases are a rip-off. For the average individual, a lease offer presents a way to step into a vehicle you wouldn't otherwise be able to afford, giving you the short-term benefit of looking more baller. But after the lease is up, you have ZERO equity, and likely a repair/cleaning bill. Not the smart choice. It is in fact, the fake-baller choice.
Dont let those tempting lease deals fool you guys, they come at a high price.

 

[eharri3 10+ year member]

If you are rich, losing even more equity by leasing, rather than simply purchasing the car you could presumably afford, is not smart. For the rest of us, again, unless its a company fleet vehicle benefiting from a tax incentive, leases are a rip-off. For the average individual, a lease offer presents a way to step into a vehicle you wouldn't otherwise be able to afford, giving you the short-term benefit of looking more baller. But after the lease is up, you have ZERO equity, and likely a repair/cleaning bill. Not the smart choice. It is in fact, the fake-baller choice.
Dont let those tempting lease deals fool you guys, they come at a high price.

So as not to let this eclipse the point I intended to make, I will reiterate that a vehicle of this caliber is not a smart used car buy. The people I know who buy them for the cheap bling usually end up miserable. There are those who pursue certain older used luxury vehicles and sports cars just for their unique desirability but these are educated buyers who know what they're getting into and can handle it because they have to have that specific car. I myself would not touch a used BMW, Benz, Rover, etc...with a ten foot pole unless it was a certified used vehicle with a good extended warranty and less than 50 thousand miles on the clock. If you are even the least bit tempted to jump on something like this you should be thinking about what's likely to go wrong at 100 thousand miles and know what it will cost to fix it. If you jump in without knowing this you are dumb. Have fun with the first 800 dollar brake job and 600 dollar tune up.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

So as not to let this eclipse the point I intended to make, I will reiterate that a vehicle of this caliber is not a smart used car buy. The people I know who buy them for the cheap bling usually end up miserable. There are those who pursue certain older used luxury vehicles and sports cars just for their unique desirability but these are educated buyers who know what they're getting into and can handle it because they have to have that specific car. I myself would not touch a used BMW, Benz, Rover, etc...with a ten foot pole unless it was a certified used vehicle with a good extended warranty and less than 50 thousand miles on the clock. If you are even the least bit tempted to jump on something like this you should be thinking about what's likely to go wrong at 100 thousand miles and know what it will cost to fix it. If you jump in without knowing this you are dumb. Have fun with the first 800 dollar brake job and 600 dollar tune up.

Also to not eclipse the original topic, but we were disagreeing if the 'smart people' chose to lease these things instead. Again, for the vast majority of people, a lease is a complete rip-off designed to make a person 'baller' for 2-4 years, and then get screwed. Your latest reply to me does not even address that topic anymore, but instead suggests Im arguing with you about the purchase of exotic used vehicles. Please stay on track.

 

[eharri3 10+ year member]

Also to not eclipse the original topic, but we were disagreeing if the 'smart people' chose to lease these things instead. Again, for the vast majority of people, a lease is a complete rip-off designed to make a person 'baller' for 2-4 years, and then get screwed. Your latest reply to me does not even address that topic anymore, but instead suggests Im arguing with you about the purchase of exotic used vehicles. Please stay on track.

The original question is whether a Rover is a smart used car by, not whether leasing or buying a brand new vehicle is the better move. I made a general example and you're dissecting that rather than the original point, that if you just have to have used luxury you should have the means to maintain it and an idea of what you're getting into.

Im not going to continue arguing the tangent you want to take us on because it's not the main point I was trying to make, so you are right on that and Im wrong. Happy? Or if not, what else would you like me to concede?

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Im not going to continue arguing the tangent you want to take us on because it's not the main point I was trying to make, so you are right on that and Im wrong. Happy?

Before you start getting too pissy, lets remember... you brought up leasing, not me. I merely pointed out what a lousy idea you had. Im sorry if that offends your delicate side.

 

[eharri3 10+ year member]

Before you start getting too pissy, lets remember... you brought up leasing, not me. I merely pointed out what a lousy idea you had. Im sorry if that offends your delicate side.

Whatever dude. Gimme a sec, I'll unbunch my panties.

 

[dennit469 10+ year member]

Whatever dude. Gimme a sec, I'll unbunch my panties.

if you lease you cant do ish with the car, such as the main thing on this forum...car audio, you van customize it in anyway wahatsover

 

[99grandprixGT 5,000+ posts]

u can uninstall the stuff.

 

[CrispedUp 10+ year member]

if you lease you cant do ish with the car, such as the main thing on this forum...car audio, you van customize it in anyway wahatsover

Yes you can. The only thing you cant do to a leased vehicle is paint it.

 

[blazeplacid 10+ year member]

a lease is a great option if you constantly want/need a new car

its basically like renting

most people who do lease are the type of folk who dont mod and dont do anything but put gas in.

My aunt is in bad health and with her lease they change her oil,transfluid, breakes.

Its all in the lease

I think its an 08/09 Carolla.Nothing fancy, just something to get her to and from work

on the other hand ive considered getting an M3 on a lease......but didnt.

I swap cars every year or two

Right now im getting tired of my year old G35 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif im buying the G

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Yep its basically like renting a brand new car, every minute of every day of every year. And the people who get a new lease every year or two pay for vehicle depreciation at a constantly severe rate. New cars depreciate the most, and the leasing company certainly recoups that money from the consumer. Its just a financially poor decision to make. The conveniences mentioned are ways to entice as many people into this system of pounding money down a rat hole as possible. That doesn't make it a fiscally responsible choice imo. But, to each their own.

What you can and cannot do to modify your leased vehicle depends on the individual contract. But any mods should be done with the intention of putting the vehicle back to (aesthetically) stock condition before returning it. Ive heard of some pretty outrageous charges for cleaning, over mileage, and mods/'damage' done to lease vehicles upon return. Make sure you understand this aspect of the deal very well befor entering into any lease situation.

 

[99grandprixGT 5,000+ posts]

i think its a good choice. we leased an explorer for 2 years. at 300 a month. if we would of bought it we could not even sell it for half of what we would of paid brand new. so i think if you like to drive new car ever 2 years its worth it rather then buying and then decide to sell.