Q's for atheists and maybe hardcore agnostics

[newusername 10+ year member]

you can never please anybody. if an agnostic/atheist came into power, and tried to take all that off everything, then all the relgious people would be pissed.

Yes, they would be pissed. At that point, you would tell them to speak with whomever represents their constituency to request revision of the US constitution...or leave.

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

Adio does some thinking now.

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[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

Aside from the fact that it is unconstitutional in the US, it is just another example of the government and its decisions being ruled by Monotheists.

Unconstitutional? I am speaking of Christianity in general. But I do agree that there are many of our traditions, icons and logos are unconstititional if you read the Constitution in a reasonable manner. But then again, we could go for a long time discussing how the various articles of the Constitution have been twisted beyond recognition or ignored.

But I still do not understand why an athiest would be so upset by such things that are largely ceremonial. I could more readily understand why a member of another religion would be offended.

As far as the government being ruled by monotheists, I sincerely do not believe that to be the case. Do most claim to be Christian? Yes, because it is politiically expedient. Are they influenced by Christian "values?" Yes, but again I think that is based more on political expediency than their own religious faith.

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

so have you learned anything about atheists adio? or are you still as ignorant as you were when you first started this thread?
edit: does anyone else find the "sterotype fighter" tag under his name atrociously hypocritical?

Why are you attacking him personally like that? All he has done is ask questions and given others an opportunity to respond. He hasn't even been here most of the day.

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

Question for the Christians - I've always wondered this
OK, so if you're not a Christian you're going to Hell right? So are you saying that everyone in the world right now that strongly believes in Buddah, Allah, whatever, no matter how they live is still going to go Hell? What about the millions, if not billions of people that died prior to 2000 years ago (or however old Christianity is)? Even though they were never even aware of Christianity, do they also get the "Go Straight To Hell, Do Not Pass Go, Do Not Collect $200" card?

I don't think I've ever had anyone that could explain that concept to me.

i don't have an answer to this, and i never heard a decent answer from anyone about it either

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

poast #2 = win.

 

[dragnix 5,000+ posts]

fun thread

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

1. For what purpose would it serve for me to "hoard everything" The concept of saving is hard for me, but that is a personal issue, I dont see any reason to start piling up stuff, as Im not that attached to material objects in the first place. I just need stereo, skateboard, friends, food, weed and beer to be very content with what I have. Why do members on here have 5-10 cars in their driveway? their religion? they are probably not athiests / some even part of the big 3 religions. If I was unbelievable rich I would live like a ****ing rockstar and indulge in every excess and probbaly die early, but thas rock and roll, not athiesm. I do beleive in waking up and making somethign of myself, doing somethign productive everyday, ultimately the movie ends and if this is the time we have ther is no other time to do what we want.

2. You have to have an income above the poverty level to hoard things, I beleive in Karma, knowing in your heart what is right. I have hundreds of friends in this small town and Im a good freind. You ulimately answer to the people that make up your life and the people you love.

3. Morals come from your heart, Ultimately you answer to yourself when you ask yourself "am I a good person? Karma will get you good.. DO good things and good things will happen to you / vice versa.

4. Morals benefit all the people I come into contact with, all my freinds, my own concience. Ultimately you live the best life you possibly can in this time alloted, you never know when your gonna die and thats life.

5. I am a good person - compared to the most brilliant teachers I had in college, compared to anyone I look up to. If you dont hold youself to a higher standard, and want to better yourself, life pretty much stops and you digress.

6. Karma, and human interaction are all that are really going on to me.. Anything else is an interpetation of those two. Or a difference of perspective stemming from interaction with others.

7. Yoga is great for stretching and excercise, I dont do yoga personally, I do stretch before I skate and do other activities.

Meditation gives your brain a chance to level off, to process the endless stream of information and differences of perspective that can simultaneously exist. It helps with dealing with human interaction, especailly empathy and understanding others.

8. I could care less what religion you are, Human interaction and Karma are all I judge people on.

9.if humans descendend from apes, why do apes still exist, since humans are more advantageous??--

A part of me thinks that aliens had something to do with our evolutionary jump, lets just say I cannot explain this and science itself is still struggling to answer your question... Why arnt there half-way developed apes running around - where is the missing link - why do we have a concience and are so amazingly aware of ourselves and the peopelaround us?

I dont know I just try to wake up and make the most of every day..

10. For anybody a part of the big threee religions? what about the dinosaurs?

1. are u a buddhist, hindu or maybe jainist??? u keep saying karma

2. ur the 1st person that said that. what makes u a good person compared to the people u just mentioned?

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

So nobody is good hearted, they all do it out of fear of karma or god kickin their ***?

x2

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

Unconstitutional? I am speaking of Christianity in general. But I do agree that there are many of our traditions, icons and logos are unconstititional if you read the Constitution in a reasonable manner. But then again, we could go for a long time discussing how the various articles of the Constitution have been twisted beyond recognition or ignored.
But I still do not understand why an athiest would be so upset by such things that are largely ceremonial. I could more readily understand why a member of another religion would be offended.

As far as the government being ruled by monotheists, I sincerely do not believe that to be the case. Do most claim to be Christian? Yes, because it is politiically expedient. Are they influenced by Christian "values?" Yes, but again I think that is based more on political expediency than their own religious faith.

I am not opposed to having the word God used on money because of my lack of religious beliefs; I am opposed to it because of my political beliefs. I can't speak for other atheists.

Yes, the constitution has been twisted to mean whatever people want to make it mean in many, many instances. However, I don't agree with any of those situations either. I am quite a strict constitutionalist (when it comes to American politics, anyways).

Is the government ruled by monotheists? At the very least, it is (in theory) ruled by the people who are largely monotheistic; at this point, you say "Well if the majority wish it to be so, it should be so" but I counter this with the constitution again.

What is really sad is what you've already aptly pointed out....in some cases, these beliefs are only held or adhered to because it is politically expedient to do so.

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

look at all these lurkers coming out of the shadows lol

oh, i brings em out daddy!!

 

[grassroots 10+ year member]

Why are you attacking him personally like that? All he has done is ask questions and given others an opportunity to respond. He hasn't even been here most of the day.

his views and stereotypes of atheists are ignorant are they not? look up the word, it's not a personal attack at all. and he already has the word of god behind him, i don't think he needs you to stick up for him.

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

so have you learned anything about atheists adio? or are you still as ignorant as you were when you first started this thread?
edit: does anyone else find the "sterotype fighter" tag under his name atrociously hypocritical?

i'm a little smarter now, TY

and what do YOU find atrociously hypocritical about my tag?

 

[grassroots 10+ year member]

i'm a little smarter now, TY
and what do YOU find atrociously hypocritical about my tag?

read the above post.

the questions you asked clearly show you believing that all atheists are selfish "evil" people. i'm just glad there were some really good replys from other "nonbelievers" to maybe help you understand.

 

[yne721 10+ year member]

read the above post.
the questions you asked clearly show you believing that all atheists are selfish "evil" people. i'm just glad there were some really good replys from other "nonbelievers" to maybe help you understand.

no i think that's just how you took his questions.

i myself didn't feel like he had scissor tongued questions trying to prove how selfish i am, i think he was asking so he could maybe try to understand the other side...