Punishment too hard?

Parent here. You need to find a punishment he can't defy. Instead of a punishment that goes like "do this", you choose a punishment that you have control of (like taking car keys, or computer).
I have done that shit so many times it's not funny,hell I took his last comp and sold it,his uncle gave him this 1 ,I took his cell phone for repeatedly lying.

 
You will get a lot of kids here, I am 30 but no kids. Just giving my advice but I think everyone agrees that taking football away was probably not the best way to go about this especially the guy who would kill himself over it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif
He said he would kill his parents

 
lay the fucking smackdown if you want him to respek you.

edit: simply joking. you simply need to let him know he's not gonna be ALLOWED to defy you..

the more you lay down & let him do what he wants, the more he'll get it in his head that he CAN do whatever he wants.

& that isn't / shouldn't be the case. that was always my problem & i had to do a LOOOOT of changing before i / my parents were happy.

 
o.k I might change my mind but you guys need to help me come up with a punishment and I guess if he fuccs up again I will beat the brakes off his ***,but on the other hand I'm going back on my word and being soft,buuuuut this is his senior year buuuut he probably won't get much playing time lol

 
Well.. you've already taken football away from him, so you need to keep with that punishment or risk looking like you're a push over.

I agree that it was a bit harsh though, so now you need to find a way to keep football as part of the negotiations, but also make it so that he has the option.

As an option... tell him that you realise that football is important to him, so you're willing to let him choose. Either he stops playing football.. or he gets a job. (as an example) so that he has to work for something he wants.

This way you don't have to take football away and you come off as trying to be reasonable with him while also making him realise that there are consequences to his actions.

 
I think you went overboard with your initial punishment.

After all, YOU forgot to ask for the laptop computer too.

Not just him. Then he went overboard in defying you to

the extreme by disappearing.

Your house sounds like an emotional rollercoaster. Sad

part is, his likely will too when he comes of age. He learned

it from you.

It's too late at 17. Any suggestions now would be for the

next kid if applicable.

 
lmao at the way your son treats you hes a G

but yea beat his ***. i used to skip school all the time and when i went to my grandmas house for a party after skipping one day my dad served my *** with a 3-pience combo. so now my buddies call him mr. bojangles lol

but yea my dad getting physical with me didnt phase me id rather have him hit me and leave me alone back in the day...

instead of then having to hear him lecture me and make me feel guilty and stuff about the things i did

depends on what kinda kid you got some kids will straighten up with a good lecture but some of them just need an asswhoopin

 
I think you went overboard with your initial punishment. After all, YOU forgot to ask for the laptop computer too.

Not just him. Then he went overboard in defying you to

the extreme by disappearing.

Your house sounds like an emotional rollercoaster. Sad

part is, his likely will too when he comes of age. He learned

it from you.

It's too late at 17. Any suggestions now would be for the

next kid if applicable.
Uhh I'm an adult,I told him to bring his comp to me so I shouldn't have to remind him every week to bring it to me,he remembered to bring it but since I didn't say anything he tried to get slick.Thanks to everyone who gave advice whether good or bad.I made some costly parenting mistakes but I'm trying to correct some of them but it's never to late for someone to learn be it kid or adult.He's just making it harder for his 11 yr old sister:D.Live and learn I guess

 
He's pretty much telling you to fukk off. Football was a little harsh, but he definitely needs some kind of punishment that will make him reflect on his disrespect for you.

Sounds also like you're not doing your job, by not following through on your end. Sometimes punishing a kid creates extra effort on your part to enforce it.

 
My 17 yr old son was told at the start of the school year he could only use his comp on the w/end and I would keep it during the week,well I have bad memory and so thursday I asked him why he didn't give it to me and he said I had homework(myspace I'm sure)so I said you can't attend the luau at school tonight,so 5 oclock he is nowhere to be found,I go to bed at 1030 and he still isn't home so I ask him the next day and he lies and said he was at the park not knowing I already knew he went so I tell him to quit the football team and this fuccer comes home yesterday and I asked him did you quit and he said"were you serious"Was I too harsh"So bottom line is he defied me and lied.
so what if the kid really needs the computer for homework

and its not cool to have daddy quit football for his son, he might not ever talk to you if that happens

 
Wait are you serious, the kid is 17 and you wont let him get on the computer during the week. Thats harsh. What if he wants to surf ca.com? ive been on the computer just about everyday since i was at least 13 years old =/.

And dont take away a sport, thats doing the opposite of what u want to accomplish.

 
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