Ported or Sealed Box for Techno???

[gamecock guru]

well hi fellow techno head i love breakbeats.DJ BABY ANN #1i would go with seal trust me its easyer to deal with and youll hit all the note you want

good answer

 

[SuperchargedRS 10+ year member]

your a total idiot. techno is all digital. unless the sound processing sux your gonna get a very clean signal. stay off this forum loser

...uh...why dont you go shove a glow stick up your azz

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

sealed if you want better sound qualityported if you want louder lows

This is a false generalization.

A correctly designed ported box will sound just as good as a sealed box. Plus the Fs, Q Factors, and Vas dictate if a subwoofer should be in a ported or sealed enclosure...

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

your a total idiot. techno is all digital. unless the sound processing sux your gonna get a very clean signal. stay off this forum loser

Yes, and 'sound quality' is only about distortion, right? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif How many SQ heads you suppose tune their system using 'techno'? Before you start throwing around the word stupid, make sure you aren't being dumb too.

 

[SuperchargedRS 10+ year member]

actually i did not mean its bad music from a tech standpoint but a general musical standpoint, I mean if I have a cd full of cows farting; it may be recorded better then the latest top 40 artists' cd...but would you really want to pump it through your system????

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

actually i did not mean its bad music from a tech standpoint but a general musical standpoint, I mean if I have a cd full of cows farting; it may be recorded better then the latest top 40 artists' cd...but would you really want to pump it through your system????

Techno is notoriously lousy for staging and imaging. Being that its mostly digitally created, there is no real sound stage, no real sound image. There's only the elementary cues and techniques where they might shift the music from side to side or whatever.
Generally speaking, techno can be tough to reproduce from a frequency response standpoint (if your system struggles in that regard), but when it comes to actual sound image placement/reproduction or spacial localization, techno sucks ***.

 

[Memphisv-tec428 10+ year member]

It doesnt matter what kind of box you use, as long as you have it built to the specs of the type R's

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

Yes, and 'sound quality' is only about distortion, right? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif How many SQ heads you suppose tune their system using 'techno'? Before you start throwing around the word stupid, make sure you aren't being dumb too.

Not I... And I would like to consider myself and Audiophile...

 

[nauc 10+ year member]

This is a false generalization.
A correctly designed ported box will sound just as good as a sealed box. Plus the Fs, Q Factors, and Vas dictate if a subwoofer should be in a ported or sealed enclosure...

dont most use ported to get more output near the enclosures tuning fq, causing the fq response to be less flat compared to most peoples sealed setups

and doesnt having a flat fq response have a lot to do with a systems sq

 

[nauc 10+ year member]

and it appears that fs and qes is what mainly dictates whether a driver likes sealed or ported

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

dont most use ported to get more output near the enclosures tuning fq, causing the fq response to be less flat compared to most peoples sealed setups
and doesnt having a flat fq response have a lot to do with a systems sq

It all depends on where you tune it and the driver in the enclosure. If you tune the box correctly you could actually have flatter response in the desired frequency range. Look at a lot of very high quality subwoofers and full range loudspeakers. The majority are going to be ported.

and it appears that fs and qes is what mainly dictates whether a driver likes sealed or ported

There are the two MAJOR factors but the Vas and entire Q also affects performance...

 

[nauc 10+ year member]

It all depends on where you tune it and the driver in the enclosure. If you tune the box correctly you could actually have flatter response in the desired frequency range. Look at a lot of very high quality subwoofers and full range loudspeakers. The majority are going to be ported.



There are the two MAJOR factors but the Vas and entire Q also affects performance...

agreed.. carry on..... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[snb778 5,000+ posts]

"Ported allows you to control the SQ in the specific range your music plays..."
what do you mean by that

Well.....Someone else correct me if I say anything incorrect here.. BUT..as far as I've been taught, this is how it goes...

If you tune a box to say 32Hz...When the woofer is playing a 32 hz note, the cone has the most stability at that point...And from what I've been told, generally anywhere within 10hz of that tuning, the cone is going to be in pretty much complete control UNTIL it hits X-MAX.

With a SEALED box...there isnt a specified Tuning...SO there is better control over the whole SUB frequency spectrum as far as the motor goes, BUT it doesnt have as strong as a peak as a ported box...hence why Ported boxes get louder.....( I know that was kinda confusing)

 

[bballer123 10+ year member]

For people that actually understand tuning and not just read numbers, it does make sense.

And to however many people have said that techno is not represented and mixed in a fashion where their can be a sufficient soundstage... that is not the case in a good number of albums. A lot of DJ's will put out something that is loud and hit hard. Most local DJ's are going to have that style. There are a few DJ's out there though that actually care about sound quality. Take Adagio For Strings by Tiesto. Probably his most widely known track. I listen to those on my monitors and it fills the soundstage PLENTY.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Well.....Someone else correct me if I say anything incorrect here.. BUT..as far as I've been taught, this is how it goes...
If you tune a box to say 32Hz...When the woofer is playing a 32 hz note, the cone has the most stability at that point...And from what I've been told, generally anywhere within 10hz of that tuning, the cone is going to be in pretty much complete control UNTIL it hits X-MAX.

With a SEALED box...there isnt a specified Tuning...SO there is better control over the whole SUB frequency spectrum as far as the motor goes, BUT it doesnt have as strong as a peak as a ported box...hence why Ported boxes get louder.....( I know that was kinda confusing)

You are right. That was confusing.
In a ported system, the cone DOES moves the least at or near tuning. This is due to the box 'choking down' on cone motion due to pressure changes that are frequency dependant. But this is also where output is the highest, because the box is at its most efficienct point in terms of frequency. So yes, an arguement can be made for there being less distortion produced directly by the driver while playing near tuning in a vented box, less excursion mans more coil in the gap means less distortion produced. But vented boxes tend to produces such a non-linear response that, once mated with in car acoustics, becomes a frequency rollercoaster. At that point, people pure enough into SQ to worry about BL distortion levels produced based on excursion, are already gonna be complaining about frequency response, group delay, etc etc.

IOW, it doesn't really matter. The generally smoother freq response shown by sealed applications in-car make it the more popular choice for SQ concerns.

Cheers.