mr roo
CarAudio.com Recruit
how do you define great? Its efficient and you get them loud as crap. On the other hand its a 8" sub that doesnt do well past 80 hz and sound Ok doing it. The OP is trying to get midbass out of a speaker that doesnt do true midbass that well. Thats the issue he is having even with all the door treatments and being sealed up.Pwx is a great midbass woofer.