Apparently no one has seen the new 2002 heads, nor do you have enough stereo sense or money to make a good system. If you compare the lower end alpine products with the pioneer products they are going to be about the same, with the real difference being the good arrangement and looks of the alpine compared to the cluttered pioneer. However, as many of you have mentioned, the Alpine used to be really expensive, which is why they started making the cheaper models. If you look at their upper-end models, like the 7995 and 7998 for this year you will find that there isn't a pioneer unit outside of a dvd player that will even compare. The 7893 and 7894 are also good units, and not really that expensive. If you're going to make a real system, don't even look at pioneer go straight to alpine, clarion, and eclipse.
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