Pioneer 6900bt yay or nay? $99

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

lol they about same price., I like easy the 5800 looks easy (saw video) but if the convertor is better that's a good thing I had kenwood before just didn't love it nothing wrong with it.. i'll look at it.. well after that it's hard to find., crutchfield has it $129 +$30 for kit they used to give kits free and sonic still does but they don't have 301.... had to pick the 1 that's hard to find didn't u?, I was trying to get the pioneer cause yall have said repeatly pioneer is better (just yesterday in fact)

you just dont get it do you? its not that one brand is better than the other. Its the model that matters along with how you are using it.

picking a brand just for the name is utterly stupid. You pick the specific model that suits your needs best. The one with the most features and build quality that fits your individual needs is the one veterans recommend.

For your individual needs, you do not need most of what the pioneer offers nor do you have the tuning knowledge or experience to make use of a majority of what that pioneer unit is all about so you basically just bought a 2 volt pre-out head unit 16 bit dac and time alignment and eq. Vs the kenwood you get 4 volt pre out, 24 bit dac, time alignment and EQ AND other tuning options that are extremely simple to use and makes big difference in sound quality

Whatever kenwood you used in the past is most likely garbage sorry to say its pretty much a fact imo considering all your poor purchase choices so far. technology has advanced and picking head units, you need to pick the proper model not just oh its a kenwood oh its a pioneer. NO thats the stupidest way to buy your head unit. You really need to look at what the head unit can do, its build quality, its sound tuning features, its modern day features and reviews to see if it has reliability or other issues. Hint you only look at all the other stuff after sound tuning features and specs if it passes the build quality and sound tuning features and specs from the start.

Dont fking buy sonic or crutchfield then go to amazon like i originally showed you, pay the 110, then buy the dash kit which is dirt cheap around 15-20 bucks. Wiring hardness is 7 bucks.

Another head unit to consider since you arent running any amps at all is the sony mex 100 bt. It has a built in 40 rms amp thats been tested to do its rated power. it'll give proper power to your speakers without you having to run an amp.

See a pattern here? No brand loyalty, just recognize what models of head units are reliable and can do the best job in serving your needs.

 

[BOOMINGRANDPA 5,000+ posts]

yeah I heard about the sony last week just bit to high, told peeps about it be cool to basic have amp power and cd player for 1/2 decent player was yrs ago (but for me they were free) the kenwood does look good i'll shop around maybe I find a deal on one.. thanks I already told wife I was spending $100.. if guy comes by today with $60 he owes for my dual 12 ported box he got with my orion subs I maybe able to swing it., I maybe able to get him to help me install hu that'll save $75

 

[BOOMINGRANDPA 5,000+ posts]

you just dont get it do you? its not that one brand is better than the other. Its the model that matters along with how you are using it. picking a brand just for the name is utterly stupid. You pick the specific model that suits your needs best. The one with the most features and build quality that fits your individual needs is the one veterans recommend.

For your individual needs, you do not need most of what the pioneer offers nor do you have the tuning knowledge or experience to make use of a majority of what that pioneer unit is all about so you basically just bought a 2 volt pre-out head unit 16 bit dac and time alignment and eq. Vs the kenwood you get 4 volt pre out, 24 bit dac, time alignment and EQ AND other tuning options that are extremely simple to use and makes big difference in sound quality

Whatever kenwood you used in the past is most likely garbage sorry to say its pretty much a fact imo considering all your poor purchase choices so far. technology has advanced and picking head units, you need to pick the proper model not just oh its a kenwood oh its a pioneer. NO thats the stupidest way to buy your head unit. You really need to look at what the head unit can do, its build quality, its sound tuning features, its modern day features and reviews to see if it has reliability or other issues. Hint you only look at all the other stuff after sound tuning features and specs if it passes the build quality and sound tuning features and specs from the start.

Dont fking buy sonic or crutchfield then go to amazon like i originally showed you, pay the 110, then buy the dash kit which is dirt cheap around 15-20 bucks. Wiring hardness is 7 bucks.

Another head unit to consider since you arent running any amps at all is the sony mex 100 bt. It has a built in 40 rms amp thats been tested to do its rated power. it'll give proper power to your speakers without you having to run an amp.

See a pattern here? No brand loyalty, just recognize what models of head units are reliable and can do the best job in serving your needs.

Hey I found that sony for $129 on amazon but read some reviews some peeps say u have to run separate power wire for the hu amp u know of peeps that did this.. what would I do run a 16ga wire from batt?

 

[ilikeradios 10+ year member]

Hey I found that sony for $129 on amazon but read some reviews some peeps say u have to run separate power wire for the hu amp u know of peeps that did this.. what would I do run a 16ga wire from batt?

Yes it is best to run a dedicated power wire with that radio.

I would go a bit bigger than 16.

I would buy one of the $10 ebay special 8 gauge wiring kits and that would also give you a RCA to use for your amp as well as a fuse for the power wire.

 

[BOOMINGRANDPA 5,000+ posts]

Yes it is best to run a dedicated power wire with that radio.
I would go a bit bigger than 16.

I would buy one of the $10 ebay special 8 gauge wiring kits and that would also give you a RCA to use for your amp as well as a fuse for the power wire.

wow I was gonna have shop install they that would add more $60 on top of the $80 I'm already going over idk.. I may have to disappoint everyone again and go cheaper.. I'm going from stock hu to after market with hp xover I feel sure any of them will be better than stock..

 

[BOOMINGRANDPA 5,000+ posts]

Yes it is best to run a dedicated power wire with that radio.
I would go a bit bigger than 16.

I would buy one of the $10 ebay special 8 gauge wiring kits and that would also give you a RCA to use for your amp as well as a fuse for the power wire.

wow I was gonna have shop install they that would add more $60 on top of the $80 I'm already going over idk.. I may have to disappoint everyone again and go cheaper.. I'm going from stock hu to after market with hp xover I feel sure any of them will be better than stock..

 

[BOOMINGRANDPA 5,000+ posts]

you just dont get it do you? its not that one brand is better than the other. Its the model that matters along with how you are using it. picking a brand just for the name is utterly stupid. You pick the specific model that suits your needs best. The one with the most features and build quality that fits your individual needs is the one veterans recommend.

For your individual needs, you do not need most of what the pioneer offers nor do you have the tuning knowledge or experience to make use of a majority of what that pioneer unit is all about so you basically just bought a 2 volt pre-out head unit 16 bit dac and time alignment and eq. Vs the kenwood you get 4 volt pre out, 24 bit dac, time alignment and EQ AND other tuning options that are extremely simple to use and makes big difference in sound quality

Whatever kenwood you used in the past is most likely garbage sorry to say its pretty much a fact imo considering all your poor purchase choices so far. technology has advanced and picking head units, you need to pick the proper model not just oh its a kenwood oh its a pioneer. NO thats the stupidest way to buy your head unit. You really need to look at what the head unit can do, its build quality, its sound tuning features, its modern day features and reviews to see if it has reliability or other issues. Hint you only look at all the other stuff after sound tuning features and specs if it passes the build quality and sound tuning features and specs from the start.

Dont fking buy sonic or crutchfield then go to amazon like i originally showed you, pay the 110, then buy the dash kit which is dirt cheap around 15-20 bucks. Wiring hardness is 7 bucks.

Another head unit to consider since you arent running any amps at all is the sony mex 100 bt. It has a built in 40 rms amp thats been tested to do its rated power. it'll give proper power to your speakers without you having to run an amp.

See a pattern here? No brand loyalty, just recognize what models of head units are reliable and can do the best job in serving your needs.

OK I GOT THE 301!!, it was $10 less than yesterday on Crutchfield so $147 including kit shipped.. and I don't have to run a power wire from battery like sony, if that was only diff I may've got it but I also woulda have to hunt for kit too and cheap ones have horrible ratings nice ones woulda been like $85 (some on ebay are $129 for my car).. I'm sure the kenwood will be vast improvement over factory once I get hp xover and position settings done

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

Play with the sound engine options. Its pretty good.

 

[BOOMINGRANDPA 5,000+ posts]

Play with the sound engine options. Its pretty good.

dude u have 10's in kick panels (no wonder u laugh when peeps want a 10 or 12 sub with 4-600rms) and 4 18's **** how big is your box 16cf? what do u use for speaker wire 2ga lol..

 

[BOOMINGRANDPA 5,000+ posts]

Play with the sound engine options. Its pretty good.

dude u have 10's in kick panels (no wonder u laugh when peeps want a 10 or 12 sub with 4-600rms) and 4 18's **** how big is your box 16cf? what do u use for speaker wire 2ga lol..

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

I REPEAT DO NOT FKING CHEAP OUT ON THE HEAD UNIT it makes the biggest difference.+

yea i cheaped out and gt the 4800 because it was a touchscreen DVD with network mode. dude its noisy and just isn't clean as it could be. even the low line kenwood i installed temp sounded more realistic..

DDX6903S | eXcelon | CAR ENTERTAINMENT | KENWOOD USA

id need a processor but **** its probably the only REAL hi res DVD player.

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

dude u have 10's in kick panels (no wonder u laugh when peeps want a 10 or 12 sub with 4-600rms) and 4 18's **** how big is your box 16cf? what do u use for speaker wire 2ga lol..

oh the old box was 24 cubic feet after port and sub displacement. you dont shove four 18s in 18 cubic feet unless you want some choked out subs that dont perform for cr@p. 8 gauge speaker wire.

New box is about 62 cubes after all displacement, its actually around 80+ cubes gross.

here's a sneak peak, its being built currently.

 

[BOOMINGRANDPA 5,000+ posts]

oh the old box was 24 cubic feet after port and sub displacement. you dont shove four 18s in 18 cubic feet unless you want some choked out subs that dont perform for cr@p. 8 gauge speaker wire.
New box is about 62 cubes after all displacement, its actually around 80+ cubes gross.

here's a sneak peak, its being built currently.

OK MANY QUESTIONS but lets just stick with 1 u mean a 18 takes 15cf each? 2 have u ever considered u may have a slight stereo addiction problem???? u know when your sub box is bigger than most cars d*mn..

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

OK MANY QUESTIONS but lets just stick with 1 u mean a 18 takes 15cf each? 2 have u ever considered u may have a slight stereo addiction problem???? u know when your sub box is bigger than most cars d*mn..

its a 6th order enclosure 5 cubes rear chamber, 10 cubes front chamber per 18... You arent living the life so i dont expect you to understand any of this.

 

[BOOMINGRANDPA 5,000+ posts]

its a 6th order enclosure 5 cubes rear chamber, 10 cubes front chamber per 18... You arent living the life so i dont expect you to understand any of this.

oh so u need air in front and behind sub gottca but stilllllllllll.. what u trying to do hit 170? no I'd have to sell my car to pay for that box and wire it in my den lol.. I already had a 15" dahlquest ht sub knock things off brick wall outside sitting in den don't need 80cf 18's