P4002 vs Ti600.2?

[JW266]

New build for my Lexus SC430 and could use some input from the older members..

Planet Audio P4002 VS Phoenix Gold Ti600.2 to push 2-12's? I plan to run them at 2ohms stereo.

Front stage is a DDAudio

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[Kickstand Premium Member]

What 12"s?

 

[JW266]

What 12"s?

Deez 12"s.

 

[JW266]

Also.. haven't built the enclosure yet. Not sure how the SQL (I think that's what the kids are calling it?) Of the amp would be affected? But the backseat is useless for humans over the age of 7. So I want to try and build it down firing (it's a convertible) but also be able to toss **** back there without worrying about damaging the subs. Amps will be hidden under the trunk floor where the stock amp is and the stupid tire changing tool kit.

Both of these amps I have are in good working condition. The Ti had a bit of a rough adventure the last time I moved but it's all cosemtic. They're both supposed to be very underrated but I can't find any real life numbers. I can say the PA is noticeably larger and heavier than the PG?

 

[Kickstand Premium Member]

If this is the amp your talking about then it's defiantly the one you want to go with

 

[Kickstand Premium Member]

If for some reason you don't use it I will gladly buy it from you

 

[JW266]

If this is the amp your talking about then it's defiantly the one you want to go with

Yes it's that guy.

 

[JW266]

If for some reason you don't use it I will gladly buy it from you

Doubt you'd want mine. Inside is clean AF.. but the gouges in the case make me sad. These amps are just too pretty to not do the extra work to show them off.

 

[JW266]

If for some reason you don't use it I will gladly buy it from you

But also... Let me in on the secret? What's it put out at 1 ohm stereo?

 

[Kickstand Premium Member]

I can't find anything on the 600 but the 1200 did almost double its rated power at 1 ohm stereo (1150 a side)
The 1200 is essentially 2 600's put together so it would be fair to say you could get 550- 600 a side out of it (1100-1200 total)
They are not as durable as the old M series that you could run down to .5 ohm though so I don't really suggest running it at 1 ohm for extended periods of time

 

[JW266]

I can't find anything on the 600 but the 1200 did almost double its rated power at 1 ohm stereo (1150 a side)
The 1200 is essentially 2 600's put together so it would be fair to say you could get 550- 600 a side out of it (1100-1200 total)
They are not as durable as the old M series that you could run down to .5 ohm though so I don't really suggest running it at 1 ohm for extended periods of time

Yea I can only find the manual for the ZX online. And they publish the ratings very interestingly.. it'll do 300x2 at 2ohm. Then a couple lines down it says minimum load stereo.... 1ohm.

Soooo... 600x1 bridged @4ohm... But says it'll handle 2ohm bridged? So 1200?!

Is this a "bass knob" or does it adjust the LP crossover?

 

[Kickstand Premium Member]

Standard PG bass knob
I think the numbers would be more like 800 @2 and 1000+ @ 1
Depends on what kind of shape the amps in
I will give you an example
When they first came out I guy I knew had one running 4 Dr Crankenstien 12's in a VW van
He lived not far from me
I could hear him coming up the hill when he came home a night
5-6 blocks away easy
I hated that guy

 

[JW266]

Standard PG bass knob
I think the numbers would be more like 800 @2 and 1000+ @ 1
Depends on what kind of shape the amps in
I will give you an example
When they first came out I guy I knew had one running 4 Dr Crankenstien 12's in a VW van
He lived not far from me
I could hear him coming up the hill when he came home a night
5-6 blocks away easy
I hated that guy

Bahaha! And his VW van was probably constantly rattling apart.

Dropped the PG amp in last night and it powered up but no output.. and there's a red light on in the opposite window from the thermal and overload lights. Got it bridged on a 4 ohm sub.. aww shucks.

 

[Kickstand Premium Member]

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[JW266]

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Haha! It was user error... I got it to play but it's got something crazy going on. If I mess with the gain it'll like cut in for a second then cut out. And there's some very odd noise I never heard from a sub before. Kinda sounds like a baby possum is trapped in the box and tryna get out