Opinion:: Random Drug/Alcohol Testing at work /poll\

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

Sorry, I was staying on topic.


That still not comparable to the topic.

Because one is an orange and your example are apples. I'll agree with all of the oranges and none of the apples, thank you very much. You have yet to compare the topic to another orange.

we are not on the thread topic anymore...we are currently on the topic of your post.

you said

You don't like a law that allows an individual to operate his/her company as he/she deems fit?

but then when i bring up something other than drugs...you back out and pull a twistid, and start to agree with restrictions on employers

 

[2002XLT 5,000+ posts]

lol. Would you guys allow a Devil worshiper, or "black magic" person to work for you? That would probably be worse then having a pothead... Oh, but i forgot, being a devil worshiper isnt illegal. And all you guys follow the law 110% right?!!

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

but then when i bring up something other than drugs...you back out and pull a twistid, and start to agree with restrictions on employers

Its about a companies rights within reason. If drug use is to be protected then we better add druggies to the hate crime laws.

It all boils down to until there is a better way to test for drug use that actually impacts work performance/safety we are stuck with the status quo...I don't see it changing.

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

what about discrimination on things we have a choice in then? religion? ****** preference?

Employers aren't supposed to do that because it IS illegal to discriminate based on race/***/****** preference/religion...

Hell, I smoke occassionally and I actually understand what so many of you, for some reason, are not able. You apply for employment at a business, AT YOUR OWN FREE WILL. They say hey, you can have the job, and here are our rules at our establishment.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE RULES, THEN DON'T WORK THERE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO BREAK THEIR RULES, THEN BE PREPARED TO BE PUNISHED IN SOME WAY.

Jesus Christ, is it that hard to understand?

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

Employers aren't supposed to do that because it IS illegal to discriminate based on race/***/****** preference/religion...
Hell, I smoke occassionally and I actually understand what so many of you are not. You apply for employment at a business, AT YOUR OWN FREE WILL. They say hey, you can have the job, and here are our rules at our establishment.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE RULES, THEN DON'T WORK THERE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO BREAK THEIR RULES, THEN BE PREPARED TO BE PUNISHED IN SOME WAY.

Jesus Christ, is it that hard to understand?

Denial runs deep in many people in this thread...yes it is hard to understand for them //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[2002XLT 5,000+ posts]

Employers aren't supposed to do that because it IS illegal to discriminate based on race/***/****** preference/religion...
Hell, I smoke occassionally and I actually understand what so many of you are not. You apply for employment at a business, AT YOUR OWN FREE WILL. They say hey, you can have the job, and here are our rules at our establishment.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE RULES, THEN DON'T WORK THERE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO BREAK THEIR RULES, THEN BE PREPARED TO BE PUNISHED IN SOME WAY.

Jesus Christ, is it that hard to understand?

We understand. But we are saying that it is an unfair practice.

CANT YOU FCKIN UNDERSTAND THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gifBigger type better illustrates your point//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

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[2002XLT 5,000+ posts]

Just because you say it over and over, doesn't make it true.

Huh? I believe its an opinion. Which, as of right now, is still legal in this country to possess, which means its neither right nor wrong. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

That comment was only in relation to the topic of the thread.
I'm not pulling an anything. You're only shot here is to bring up another orange, say like alcohol. Leave your apples for a different fruity conversation.

so your admitting that for the topic of the thread, yes the company should be allowed to do what they please.

but for the topic i brought up, they should not be be allowed to do what they please?

duece212: to you its within reason...to the racist company owner its not within reason. and it might be vice versa as well. whose to say whats within reason? whens the last time you had any say on a law going into effect? if i see drug testing as invasion of privacy, and i dont consider it within reason, who am i suppose to go to that will actually give a shit what i have to say? a shit load of people vote for 1 guy to represent them in HOPES that what they believe will be represented, when that 1 guy puts in his vote.

NORML is doing its job in trying to represent us, but i cant tell NORML what to put on their priority list as being #1. all i can do is give cash donations participate in rally's and hope for the best.

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

We understand. But we are saying that it is an unfair practice.

Maybe unfair to you, the frequent pot-smoker who for some reason, likely stupidity, took the job that does random drug tests...

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

We understand. But we are saying that it is an unfair practice.
CANT YOU FCKIN UNDERSTAND THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

lol...funny some people cant grasp what im getting at.