Old man question of the day... (covers multiple topics: amps, subs and wiring)

[phenryiv1 10+ year member]

You havent tried to get any info from the .orgY?

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[phenryiv1 10+ year member]

I've got a pair of the REV coax's and really like them and they get plenty loud when needed. Haven't heard the REV comps though. Also put a pair of the Assassin 8's in the GF's car. Wanted 10's but they were out the day I stopped in. VERY happy with those subs and they take up little trunk space.
I've got an Altima and a Sentra is pretty much the same car and VERY easy to run wires to the back, so you're install will be very clean and not hard.

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I had no trouble running the wires with 8 gauge, and I cannot imagine that 4 will be that much tougher. I just need to figure out whether or not the amp that I have will accept 4 gauge, or whether I will need a reducer just to insert it into the terminal.

I may end up with REV coaxials for the mean time, or maybe a set of Alpine TypeS that I have (spend the $$$ on an amp), then upgrade to good components in the next phase. I really need to segment my spending. Like I said, a new baby (plus my wife just got an 04 Pilot) makes money tight. The HU is a gift, and everything else is leftover from old systems, at this point.

 

[6spdcoupe 5,000+ posts]

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[phenryiv1 10+ year member]

Okay, I poked around on the wiring site (KnuKoncepts?) and found this:

http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=KOL-AK44

With the addition of a d-block, that shoud cover me, right? Or should I buy it in peices and get the dedicated 4-channel signal wires buy pwr wire on its own?

Let's assume ONE amp.

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Is this Don? Edit- of course it is...

And yes, I poked around on the org, but it is pretty much a waste...

 

[6spdcoupe 5,000+ posts]

Shoulda made a post n00bcakes. We certainly coulda helped. Or could just gave me a ring. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[CBFryman2 5,000+ posts]

I sincerely doubt that I will run 2 amps, btu that is always a possability, if I go crazy. Like I said, I doubt it, but it could happen. I am more likely to sell the car before that happens. Speaking to specific gauges of wire, will a 4 gauge actually fit in the terminals of most amps? Let's assume that I will only run ONE amp, ever. If I run 4 gauge, will it fit in the terminals? And is there a chart where I can see how many watts a particular gauge of wire can support, over a given length?

Yes. Most A/B's of 400w and up and most D class of 600w and up will accept 4ga inputs. If they dont the company likely isnt putting out a very decent product. Biger power and ground make the amp run more efficent and reduce voltage drop to the amplifer.

I have a roll of 14 gauge. Is this enough for components? If it will really make a difference, I can get 12, but it seems like a shame to waste a whole roll of 14 if I have it. I will obviously use 12 for the sub.

14ga is fine. I just reccomended 12ga because it's the biggest they have and bigger is always better. If you already have enough 14ga to do the job then you are fine.

The Daytons are too deep. Even with a spacer, I have an absolute limit of a 2.5" speaker mounting depth for my mids. The Daytons are 3." I will look at the other ones. I remeber hearing a car with Vifas a while back, and they were sweet. I also need to see if they will fit in the stock location. Since I may trade in in a few months (this summer, hopefully), I want to be able to go back to stock.

The Assassian looks good on paper. I like the box size requirements- and the price.

Meh. I'm not sure hod deep the poly mids are. It is going to be challengting to get a good set of midbasses in there less than 2.5".

The assasins look good on paper and perform good in the real world. They are super beefy in real life too. IMO there is none better for less than $80.

It looks daunting, but people have figured it out, so I am sure that I can as well, with patience and a good tutorial.

It isnt all too hard once you get into it. Just mask well, put down a light coat of resin, lay your mat down, then soak and dab it. Do 3-4 layres before you pull the mold off of the trunk. Use your dremel or jig saw to cut the pattern you want then glue your speaker ring out away from the mold with dowle rods. Make sure it is strong and then stretch youre fleece using staples or tape or glue to hold the fleece. Soak the fleece in resin then do 2-3 layres of cloth on the outside. Glue some bracing on the inside. If yo ucan push on it with your finger and it doesnt flex it is strong enough. Then bondo and sand untill ti is smooth, then carpet. There are plenty of good tutorials on the internet.

I have had sealed and ported enclosures, and I really like a properly-powered sealed enclosure. I have had good luck with small, well-powered subs with quick response times.

I'm a Ported/Good Bandpass man myself. More bang for buck as far as wattage is concerned. But I got just a little bit of basshead inside me. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

 

[CBFryman2 5,000+ posts]

Okay, I poked around on the wiring site (KnuKoncepts?) and found this:http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=KOL-AK44

With the addition of a d-block, that shoud cover me, right? Or should I buy it in peices and get the dedicated 4-channel signal wires buy pwr wire on its own?

That kit would suit your needs just fine my man. You could built your own with cheaper 4ga wire for a little less but that is all inclusive so go ahead and spring for it if you think that is what would work best for you. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[CBFryman2 5,000+ posts]

Oh and leave some room in your wallet for sound deadening. You will thank yourself later. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[AK SloPok 10+ year member]

I too think that CB has some great info and I actually learned something! I would also like to suggest Elemental Designs as a "one stop shopping". The products listed above all are very reputable and I don't think you could go wrong with any of them, but you you would have to get them from different distributors.

I have had great experience with ED products and they have excellent customer service, and all the parts you need to get in one place. They also offer package prices http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/index.php ED sponsors a forum, but it tends to be a bit close minded about others products (not too bad but you may see some bias).

If you do try the fiberglass, try something small to start and I think you will see how "addictive" it can be. My first project was a box for 2 18" subs. Wasn't perfect but it helped me get my feet wet and it certainly provided for "learning opportunities". You can also get lots of info from http://fiberglassforums.com/ for tips and tricks.