nobody likes rockford fosgate??

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

none and Chicken got little to no deal on them. Now dont get me wrong, they LOVE the fact we are running them and are very happy with the outcome so far....//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/cool.gif.3bcaf8f141236c00f8044d07150e34f7.gif

I'm sure they're happy with all the attention you get with them as well...glad they're working out well for you.

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

for one, Chicken doesnt mess around. IF these amps ****, they come out and they come out NOW. What about the things i say is not believable? If what i built SUCKED, there would be no videos and the build would not be on the net...the Caddy would be chainsawed back to stock. I was nervous but now im totally relieved. The T15k TOTALLY lives up to its hype.

I never said anything bad about the amp either, its just not for me. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[sonic purity 10+ year member]

Dont forget me, I am using em too.

This is part of what convinced to go back to fosgate after over 10 years.

http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/index.php?showtopic=14953

They are constantly working on R&D to make sure there amps are on the cutting edge.

 

[bumpin buick 5,000+ posts]

For one this is not an amplifier for the masses. Number two, to have these amps in such limited edition would leave me to believe that he has a special interest in said company.
Note I am not saying anything bad about Meade or Rockford, I respect him and Rockford, but its not the end all be all of amplifiers.

Well I have no say from RF but I have a freind that runs a few RF shops. I have had personal experinces with the amps we are talking about and I was thoroughly impressed with them, the hybrid technology is the future.

Like steve said it will be expensive at first just like anything new, duhh. But it will be better, more efficient, and power stable. I am not talking bad about any other company as I have tried many and love them. All I am saying is RF makes some badass products and some people just have it in there head that mainstream companies arnt able to do that

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

Well I have no say from RF but I have a freind that runs a few RF shops. I have had personal experinces with the amps we are talking about and I was thoroughly impressed with them, the hybrid technology is the future.
Like steve said it will be expensive at first just like anything new, duhh. But it will be better, more efficient, and power stable. I am not talking bad about any other company as I have tried many and love them. All I am saying is RF makes some badass products and some people just have it in there head that mainstream companies arnt able to do that

We will have to disagree on this point. I would rather have peaks in my current draw than continuous even at a lesser load.

 

[bumpin buick 5,000+ posts]

We will have to disagree on this point. I would rather have peaks in my current draw than continuous even at a lesser load.

You can disagree all you want, and hey maybe I am wrong but that is my opinion. The amp is clearly more efficient, runs cooler, and draws less power. I dont see why you wouldnt want that in an amp? but everyone has there own opinion. Hell I dont even run RF anymore but I would still stand behind there amps anyday.

 

[miker 5,000+ posts]

I do all my installations, have done lots of research on RF and are still learning, besides that car audio is like voting you don't have give NOBODY any reason why you like a certain product. You don't see me putting down other companies, I know RF might not be the best but its close. I've been buying RF products for over 10 years know lots of people who have it and are happy, besides all this drama my ears are already messed up that anything stronger than my T2 would mess up my ears. ITS ALL GOOD. ITS ALL ABOUT BEING HAPPY RIGHT

Yes it most certainly is. .

 

[meade916 10+ year member]

Hmm, have you stopped to consider that you can buy 2 warhorses for the price of one T15kw? Probably 3 XX Maxximuses, Maybe 2 or 3 A6000GTIs, Several Stetsom 7kDs...
Sure, it only draws 350A max, but too bad it can't maintain full power.

The T15kw is a scam //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

Get off RF's nuts, tard.

actually it can maintain full power just fine. Its not a scam, that amp is the shit plain and simple. Also, you know as much about a Warhorse as you do a T15k which is nothing so how can you even start to comment on either?

you cant even drop a RF BD series amp below a 1ohm load, with out it going PUFFF amp be gone! THEY ****

hmmm the navigator i did with a T3000.1bd is at .5 all day long and has been for 2 1/2 years now. All my T4000's are all at .7 and have been almost 2 years. Maybe you shouldnt be speaking on what you dont know.

You poor misguided soul. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif RF is not coming out with a line of amplifiers that breaks the laws of physics. 50 amps @ 14.4 volts is just under 750 watts, and that would be at 100% efficiency. RF is coming out with a line of amplifiers that will be 200% efficient? Come on dude, you know better than that.
So far as I remember, the 'amazing technology' in the T15kw is a large bank of capacitors. The T15kw can only sustain is amazing output until its bank of caps is drained, then its output drops drastically (to like 3kw) until the caps are recharged and ready for another burp. Personally, sounds like shitty 'technology' for any daily driver system to me. *shrug*

The T15kw is much like MTX's Jackhammer, huge and meant for advertising, not practical at all. I would not use it as a measuring stick for the company's products.

i havent heard of the new hybrid technology trickling down to the smaller amps YET but it WILL eventually happen. Talk about people talking straight out of their ***, who TOLD YOU (key word TOLD YOU because you obviously dont know) that the power output drops to 3,000 watts EVER? Maybe if you play with the car off and drain the batteries but with the car running and enough alt power (350 amps per T15k) that wont happen. Youll see how full of shit you are when this thing finally hits the street....maybe you can come by so i can let it shut you the hell up.

RF will never be more than a name in the car audio world, thats why you dont see to many people in the lanes using there power or there woofers, the quit making good products years ago! Now everything is built at a cheap over the seas build house!!

actually i see RF in the lanes as much as i see any other brand.....amps anyway. They dont have a "super sub" like a BTL or a fat *** DD so that would explain why the big burpers dont use them but every day bass racers do all the time.

The t15kw draws 300 amps continuously, not max. It is always drawing around 300 amps. You will still need to upgrade electrical for the new lines of amplifiers.

actually it doesnt draw it continuously, once the amp fills up when you first turn it on, it only draws what it needs at that moment. IF it drew that much continuously the alternators would burn the hell up even at low volumes. From my experience, even at high volumes with the car running, the voltage doesnt even move.

With the car NOT running it has so much storage i still had a hard time getting the voltage to move.

 

[bumpin buick 5,000+ posts]

I think its kind of funny anyone talking shit is someone who either knows nothing about car audio or has never seen or used there amps.

 

[meade916 10+ year member]

We will have to disagree on this point. I would rather have peaks in my current draw than continuous even at a lesser load.

see my other comment i just posted.......the amp doesnt draw large continuous loads unless you are banging on the system hard. That is if you consider 350 amps for 16,000 clean RMS watts a "large" continuous load. At regular volumes these amps ABSOLUTELY CRUISE //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

Oh ya, when this amp goes into clipping (not peak) it can do up to 26,000 watts.......and it dont suffer the same problems most amps do when they clip so that 26k is MUCH cleaner then you think...

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

You can disagree all you want, and hey maybe I am wrong but that is my opinion. The amp is clearly more efficient, runs cooler, and draws less power. I dont see why you wouldnt want that in an amp? but everyone has there own opinion. Hell I dont even run RF anymore but I would still stand behind there amps anyday.

It still draws as much current as any amplifier that large. It just does it on a constant basis vs peaks with more traditional amplifiers. Traditional amplifiers are dynamic like music giving your battery time to recharge between hits whereas a continuous draw will need to be fed with constant current.

You are correct it is a matter of opinion, but I for one do not see an advantage in this technology except for on a huge wattage applications.

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

All of this talk about the T15kw doesn't negate the fact that RFs subs blow. Hard.

 

[bumpin buick 5,000+ posts]

It still draws as much current as any amplifier that large. It just does it on a constant basis vs peaks with more traditional amplifiers. Traditional amplifiers are dynamic like music giving your battery time to recharge between hits whereas a continuous draw will need to be fed with constant current.
You are correct it is a matter of opinion, but I for one do not see an advantage in this technology except for on a huge wattage applications.

Again you need to use the amp or at least see it before you talk please. It does not draw continusley, only when it needs it. And again you are wrong amps of similar size draw way way way more power.

To give you an example the 40.1, SAz-3000, T40001bd, DD Z1, amps like those draw 300+ amps. and thats only 3000-4500wmrs were talking about, this amp draws about the same and provides a continous strong 15,000. None of you guys have actually seen or used the amps so please provide supporting facts before making up stats like these.

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

see my other comment i just posted.......the amp doesnt draw large continuous loads unless you are banging on the system hard. That is if you consider 350 amps for 16,000 clean RMS watts a "large" continuous load. Oh ya, when this amp goes into clipping (not peak) it can do up to 26,000 watts.......and it dont suffer the same problems most amps do when they clip so that 26k is MUCH cleaner then you think...

Thats totally my point. I personally do not see an advantage in a daily application if you need as large as alternator as you can current draw. Just my opinion.

 

[bumpin buick 5,000+ posts]

All of this talk about the T15kw doesn't negate the fact that RFs subs blow. Hard.

Agreed, but there amp line up is very well built and very powerful. That is what we are trying to get too, there sub line up really has no arguements to be made, maybe someday they will get into bigger better subs but until then I beleive they still make some kick *** amps