nobody likes rockford fosgate??

[sonic purity 10+ year member]

Again you need to use the amp or at least see it before you talk please. It does not draw continusley, only when it needs it. And again you are wrong amps of similar size draw way way way more power.
To give you an example the 40.1, SAz-3000, T40001bd, DD Z1, amps like those draw 300+ amps. and thats only 3000-4500wmrs were talking about, this amp draws about the same and provides a continous strong 15,000. None of you guys have actually seen or used the amps so please provide supporting facts before making up stats like these.

If people didnt make shit up, this thread wouldnt have made it passed the first page.

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

Their amps are solid as hell. I just hate their crappy subs.

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

Again you need to use the amp or at least see it before you talk please. It does not draw continusley, only when it needs it. And again you are wrong amps of similar size draw way way way more power.
To give you an example the 40.1, SAz-3000, T40001bd, DD Z1, amps like those draw 300+ amps. and thats only 3000-4500wmrs were talking about, this amp draws about the same and provides a continous strong 15,000. None of you guys have actually seen or used the amps so please provide supporting facts before making up stats like these.

Most of the time then. Regardless total amps over an hour will be similar between (4) 40.1s and one of these.

You cant bend the laws of physics man. It takes power to make power.

 

[bumpin buick 5,000+ posts]

Thats totally my point. I personally do not see an advantage in a daily application if you need as large as alternator as you can current draw. Just my opinion.

You personally have never seen/used the amp either but as far as a daily application it isn't very practical to use 15,000wrms anyways now is it? But if anyone plans on running 15kwrms Im pretty sure they have the money and plan on upgrading there alternator anyways. For example Chicken

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

Agreed, but there amp line up is very well built and very powerful. That is what we are trying to get too, there sub line up really has no arguements to be made, maybe someday they will get into bigger better subs but until then I beleive they still make some kick *** amps

I agree there amps are solid. I never said they werent. I just dont believe in this particular technology as of yet regardless of who invented it.

 

[sonic purity 10+ year member]

Most of the time then. Regardless total amps over an hour will be similar between (4) 40.1s and one of these.
You cant bend the laws of physics man. It takes power to make power.

Thats what they said about putting over 25 watts of power into an automobile.

 

[MEMPHISFLEX 10+ year member]

I have 8 12s to power so im going to try running a RF 4000D to them, im looking for one now, so let me know if anybody has some for sale, and not a *** load of money, i want to see why everybody is so hyped up about these amps!! The amps put out lots of power, but i want to see somebody do some bass racing with them, i still dont think they hold alot of power, they dont have very many caps for running 4kw for along time, but i could be wrong and ill find out!

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

You personally have never seen/used the amp either but as far as a daily application it isn't very practical to use 15,000wrms anyways now is it? But if anyone plans on running 15kwrms Im pretty sure they have the money and plan on upgrading there alternator anyways. For example Chicken

It doesnt take a rocket scientist to know how that amp works. And about the money thing, again that is my point. To me it offers no advantage over tradition amplifiers.

 

[bumpin buick 5,000+ posts]

Most of the time then. Regardless total amps over an hour will be similar between (4) 40.1s and one of these.
You cant bend the laws of physics man. It takes power to make power.

Serious? Your right it does take power to make power but the efficiency scale is something I dont think people can take into effect. This amp uses the stored power when it needs to so it doesnt have to draw any more than it needs to from the alt. There for it will max the draw at 350amp. The only way I could see this thing draining out is if someone played a test tone for several minutes straight at full volume.

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

Thats what they said about putting over 25 watts of power into an automobile.

Probably the same people that thought the earth was flat. That means absolutely nothing.

 

[bumpin buick 5,000+ posts]

I have 8 12s to power so im going to try running a RF 4000D to them, im looking for one now, so let me know if anybody has some for sale, and not a *** load of money, i want to see why everybody is so hyped up about these amps!!

I had one for sale last week //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[meade916 10+ year member]

It still draws as much current as any amplifier that large. It just does it on a constant basis vs peaks with more traditional amplifiers. Traditional amplifiers are dynamic like music giving your battery time to recharge between hits whereas a continuous draw will need to be fed with constant current.
You are correct it is a matter of opinion, but I for one do not see an advantage in this technology except for on a huge wattage applications.

actually, do some research on class A/B amps......if you had 16-26,000 class A/B watts it would be VERY hard and you would need an electrical system for your car like no other.........big differnce between clas A/B and D.

also the benefit to a smaller amp with this technology is that if you had a 1000 watt amp drawing 30 amps, you could have a very powerful system and still roll a stock alt NO problem. HOw bout when a DECK with the same technology (someday) can do 1000 watts all by itself (and im not talking the generic peak numbers still on the face of most decks).

here is a video that will explain the Hybrid technology a little better.....its something the dont knows need to watch //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

Serious? Your right it does take power to make power but the efficiency scale is something I dont think people can take into effect. This amp uses the stored power when it needs to so it doesnt have to draw any more than it needs to from the alt. There for it will max the draw at 350amp. The only way I could see this thing draining out is if someone played a test tone for several minutes straight at full volume.

Show me the efficiency of this amp. If its over 100% over time I will grant you and Rockford the Noble Prize for physics.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

i havent heard of the new hybrid technology trickling down to the smaller amps YET but it WILL eventually happen. Talk about people talking straight out of their ***, who TOLD YOU (key word TOLD YOU because you obviously dont know) that the power output drops to 3,000 watts EVER? Maybe if you play with the car off and drain the batteries but with the car running and enough alt power (350 amps per T15k) that wont happen. Youll see how full of shit you are when this thing finally hits the street....maybe you can come by so i can let it shut you the hell up.

Talk about someone taking things too personal. Its an amplifier dude, calm down. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif
I was going to drop out of this conversation, as people with actual experience are giving their input now... but you are just being an ***.

I dont remember where I read the output drops to 3k. If Im wrong, forgive me, sue me, or get over it. Any of those 3 will do. But while you are on your rant, maybe you can, with your real world experience, tell us what it DOES drop down to. Or, is your real world experience suggesting it does indeed defy the laws of physics and can sustain full output indefinitely? We all know how it works Mr Meade, it has a bank of caps that it switches between using and its 12volt source (and both for peak output). I dont have to have jizzed on my own personal unit to know how it works. Caps discharge, and when they do, they need recharged. If it will sustain longer than the "5 minute death match" comment suggested in my quote from CA&E (which correct me if Im wrong, did test an actual unit), then yes please do tell us. But so far all you've basically said is you've never depleted the caps.

If you are gonna beat on us unworthy non-owners for having incorrect info, you could at least do some testing and give us some correct/specific info. Otherwise you just look like an advertisement for RF in this thread.

 

[bumpin buick 5,000+ posts]

It doesnt take a rocket scientist to know how that amp works. And about the money thing, again that is my point. To me it offers no advantage over tradition amplifiers.

Appearntly it does take a rocket scientist because no one else can figure out how the amp works to manipulate and maximize the power.

And again the money thing will change as the amps become mass produced in several sizes.

Let me just ask you guys this.... please just forget this whole RF discussion for a minute. If a company (any company) put out a new amp, that puts out lets say 3000wrms and it ran the same price as any other amp in its range but ran cooler, could be .5ohm stable, and last but not least only draw 100amps of power. Would you buy it? Or would you say theres no advantage and stick to the traditional way?