No mini van demo vehicles?

All/any year or certain ones? We had one for quite awhile and no ****** issues.
I've heard it about a lot of them over the years. Definitely not like truck or SUV suspension/****** where some towing or weight is sort of expected. Engineers figure mom, dad, and a half dozen 10 year old soccer players for carrying capacity.

 
#1 i like pioneer stuff so wasn't insulting it i know it'll do 150's no doubt., u haven't heard mine since i doubled power (he did when it was vibrating sunroof track horribly) #2 i was insulting shop but it is small (1 i worked at had show room and a entire ht living room) i know he has a work shop back there and a small show room and i know it's handicapped van i said so just don't understand the hostility, no one else here knows where it is lol.. wondered if guy had ever paid him,i was there when he was painting interior pieces..
I didn't say you was insulting it, but as always, you have no F'ing clue what you're talking about. As I said, it will have SIX of them in it, not four like you said. Same thing with you saying it was lifted on bags...it's not lifted, not on bags, and you haven't a clue what you're talking about.

If you quadrupled power since I last heard it, it still wouldn't be impressive. If you'd quit screwing around with prefab garbage boxes, you're car probably would sound decent. If you're still running prefab, it's not loud, won't ever be loud, and doesn't sound good being not loud.

Why the hostility?

Because you plug my name and that shop every chance you get, yet you don't know what your talking about or what my actual name is when you go visit that shop. My name is not Drew like you keep referring to me as.

Because you've been in audio for 20+ years (I wouldn't believe it if I didn't remember you from back in the day), and you still don't know crap about it.

Because someone could be asking what riding mower is best, and you'd reply with "My pioneer sub and cheapass amp sounds loud and is awesome!".

Because you want me to hook my Term-Lab up to your car, but you're only willing to pay me if I can guess your score before metering...and only if that guess is higher than your guess. WTF man? Seriously?

You've also managed to pi$$ off the owner of the shop. You're the worst kind of customer. Go up there, pester the $hit out of him, tell him why he should start selling a brand he doesn't, and don't buy $hit from him. I'd venture to guess if you go back up there again, you won't like his response to you.

 
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All/any year or certain ones? We had one for quite awhile and no ****** issues.
Honda mini-vans from 03 to 08ish have ***** issues. I've heard 09 and up as well, but have yet to see as wide spread of an issue with them as the older ones.

Dodge vans, at least up until 08ish are awful. I've replaced a ton of those transmissions...many with under 50k miles.

Toyota minivans seem to have solid transmissions.

There's a local guy with a older Toyota Sienna with a 4th order wall in his. Can't remember if it's six 18's, or six 15's in it. Last time I saw it, it did 55's sealed on the dash.

 
I didn't say you was insulting it, but as always, you have no F'ing clue what you're talking about. As I said, it will have SIX of them in it, not four like you said. Same thing with you saying it was lifted on bags...it's not lifted, not on bags, and you haven't a clue what you're talking about.
If you quadrupled power since I last heard it, it still wouldn't be impressive. If you'd quit screwing around with prefab garbage boxes, you're car probably would sound decent. If you're still running prefab, it's not loud, won't ever be loud, and doesn't sound good being not loud.

Why the hostility?

Because you plug my name and that shop every chance you get, yet you don't know what your talking about or what my actual name is when you go visit that shop. My name is not Drew like you keep referring to me as.

Because you've been in audio for 20+ years (I wouldn't believe it if I didn't remember you from back in the day), and you still don't know crap about it.

Because someone could be asking what riding mower is best, and you'd reply with "My pioneer sub and cheapass amp sounds loud and is awesome!".

Because you want me to hook my Term-Lab up to your car, but you're only willing to pay me if I can guess your score before metering...and only if that guess is higher than your guess. WTF man? Seriously?

You've also managed to pi$$ off the owner of the shop. You're the worst kind of customer. Go up there, pester the $hit out of him, tell him why he should start selling a brand he doesn't, and don't buy $hit from him. I'd venture to guess if you go back up there again, you won't like his response to you.
sorry u hate pioneer and prefabs, i thought he said 4 and he said van was 'lifted" or something (i said bags) u getting mad over like 1 word in each sentence.. i'm horrible with names sorry., and if u didn't want to meter it coulda said so in the pm., if i just wanted to pay to get get it metered i would idk that much., again i know it's not what ya'll would call loud i got less in my whole system than u do in your door pods.. promise won't mention u or that shop again and when i'm ready to get a atomic sub i'll find another dealer..

 
AHAHAHHAHAAHAH!!!!
You? Buy Atomic?

AHHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Yeah right! They don't make a $20 sub!
Ignorant.. Your so busy trying to mess with this dude after him repeatedly saying sorry in you keep going with it?
Lousy people, hopefully you are as good as you talk and act like you are.

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Ignorant.. Your so busy trying to mess with this dude after him repeatedly saying sorry in you keep going with it?
Lousy people, hopefully you are as good as you talk and act like you are.

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I don't talk like I'm anything special. I also don't spout off misinformation every chance I get.

 
I don't talk like I'm anything special. I also don't spout off misinformation every chance I get.
I've had my issues with Gramps... Big ones... but I just knew that this would happen... I've said my piece a few times and been pretty succinct in my posts... but I have just let it go... but involving a shop and competitor in his tales was bound to get him bit in the azz... If the apology was sincere... cool... but if nothing changes... well

 
Can I have some popcorn?!
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Right man. Leave the grandpa alone, he tries to brag about you all the time and all you do is rip on the guy.
right??!!! if i say u got a great system with 2 cd 12's really awesome rear doors about to come off., and u come back with they dc 12's u freakin' moron.. u know even a typing error or saying he has 3k instead of 4k rms him off for no reason. instead of just sayin no man it's 4k, idk every thing i say make peeps mad.. if i say look at this amp or sub they say how u know u never had one (most peeps here haven't had everything they recommend to others) and if i rec my sub "omg thats a pos why u recommend that" so i can't win..

 
yep done....only thing i regret was say shop was slow didn't know guy hadn't paid for system but saying 4 subs instead of 6 (when last i heard it was 4) isn't something to get mad about.. just so much hate on here for poor people it's stupid., not everyone can afford or wants a $600 sub..

 
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