New to Car audio forum, looking for help on first build

my friend had the AQ's 4 of em sound good. and look around from people that RAN EM on the forum nothin but good talk. not from jus some magazine nerd. but anyways hes msging me so i see which way hes goin:) bye bye go sell that shitty *** system to sum1 else obviously he sees a deal wen there is one.

 
my friend had the AQ's 4 of em sound good. and look around from people that RAN EM on the forum nothin but good talk. not from jus some magazine nerd. but anyways hes msging me so i see which way hes goin:) bye bye go sell that shitty *** system to sum1 else obviously he sees a deal wen there is one.
Once again, all the stuff I suggested has been praised over and over again on the forums. Many people have RUN them on here with great results. That was simply the easiest way for me to find evidence without sifting through a thousand threads that had "RSD" anywhere in them. If he decides you're stuff suits him better, fine. I lose nothing. I hope he enjoys the stuff. My point was not to get him to steer away from your stuff, it was to help him find what is right for him.

However, the poor kid is going to be severely disappointed unless you know more about installation than you do about the quality of equipment you're not trying to sell. If you think any of that stuff is shitty or is not a good deal, you have all the intelligence of the wet bag of garbage sitting on my curb.

 
wel thats a good thing my homie owns a stereo shop where i can have him install it all and adjust it for him. maybe u should buy that setup since u seem to love it so much. im outs time for bed //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wave.gif.002382ce7d7c19757ab945cc69819de1.gif

 
wel thats a good thing my homie owns a stereo shop where i can have him install it all and adjust it for him. maybe u should buy that setup since u seem to love it so much. im outs time for bed //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wave.gif.002382ce7d7c19757ab945cc69819de1.gif
I would if I didn't have stuff that better suited my goals. I guarantee it would sound better than anything involving your equipment. Hell I could probably get it louder too. I highly doubt the owner of a REAL stereo shop would do free installs because his dumb buddy offered it to someone on the internet.

Nice to see how mature you are. I haven't heard a "since you love it" comment since about third grade:rolleyes:

 
After this much time on the forum, you should know better than to say ported boxes lose SQ. A well-built, low-tuned ported box can give just as much SQ as asealed box while increasing the output
Yeah well I guess it would have to be professionally made, and tuned exactly. Im just not a big fan of messing with ports and tuning freq's and etc. I would just rather stick SQ subs in a well built sealed box for SQ.

But you are right.

I would personally rather have the Alpine. But it really depends on how much power you need at what impedence and what the price is. Your best bet is to pick a sub, then pick an amp to power it.

The one thing I will say is that if you buy either of those (or any other mono amp) you will have to buy another amp to power any aftermarket front speakers you buy. That ED amp is a really good deal because it will power your sub(s) and your fronts.
Makes a good point. I would def take the PDX over the hifonics straight up, but it all depends on what type of setup you are running. As said every detail matters.

what are comps and coaxes? if i get the setup u were talking abuot Hintz i will most likely get it installed at a local shop people tell me to stay away from places liek circuit city or Best Buy, when i bring it to a store that specializes in car audio will they know how to put the setup u put together the same way u were talking about it? Or will i have to tell them like what exactly i want them to do? in terms of specifics to make like my sub sound good.
Yeah some things you can do on your own, but some things you would probably want someone to help you do. I would recommend finding someone on this forum that would be willing to install your shit for you at a lower cost VS the dumbasses at best buy/circuit city etc. I work at tweeter and I know how everything works in our business, and our previous installers were CRAZY GOOD, however good installers are hard to find.

I don't think I've mentioned this yet, but you will definitely want to do some sound deadening as well. The cheapest GOOD deadening I've found is Raamat, which is $120 a roll (which should easily cover your trunk and doors). You might have to extend your budget just a bit, but it will be worth it. If you can't stretch the finances, then some basic Peal'n'Seal from Lowe's will work as a cheap alternative.
Sound deadening is a must if you really want quality. If you just want to get loud, you should probably just focus more into loud subs and big boxes. Or more powerful subs and small boxes, as said everything depends.

How would i have the enclosure built? Hell i might as well ask some dudes to help me just install my system for some cash haha, discounts anyone?* haha The Stuff u listed is that the best price u could find or will i be able to easily find even better prices?
building a box is not rocket science, however its not very simple either. You want to make sure you build it correctly so that your bass is clean and accurate. Dont want any holes, misaligned sides or fronts and etc. Also the look of the box is important too. How its carpeted etc.

btw my money is coming from the BAR junking my old camry 1990 for 1000 bucs yeeeeahh haha so i got some extra cash laying around so its not strictly 1000. btw if anyone in the San Diego area or around it is willing to help me out with building abox or putting my system together thatd be great message me or wutever
I would strongly recommend to learn from most of our mistakes that we all have pretty much made and just wait until you understand what you are buying, and how it works before you just buy stuff(which you already are doing now)

o and how easy is it to do deading and how much does it cost for them to do it at a shop? i should make a video of my pro stock speakers in my Corolla ^_^ haha my trunk is like a box initself which is why i think sometimes it sounds like a got a sub in the back haha

Deadening is not easy when you are doing it for your first time, again though it is not rocket science. It really is simple...Just put material on metal(or whatever surface) and close all holes so your lower end frequency's are much more accurate... their is alot more detail into this but.. yeah.

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Hintzboy has REALLY taken some good time to recommend you some good information etc, and so have I. I know you only have like 30 posts, but just keep asking questions... more so of how do things work, not what should I buy. You really need to understand how all of this stuff works if you want to save money and get some good stuff. Unless your a rich kid and just want everything installed asap and dont care...which doesnt seem like you are.

Also I would highly look at your cars electrical system. If you are going for SPL, you ARE going to NEED to do the "big 3" undeneath your hood, which is upgrading the 3 main wires underneath your hood, Alt+ to Bat +, Bat - to chassis, and Bat - to engine. Will increase voltage, which increases current flow and efficency and etc etc.

my .02

 
Dunno if this will help but heres just some pics of my car and my trunk you can see my stock speakers hanging from the racks in my trunk, those i think are wut rattle the most when i play bass heavy songs.

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i tried to make a video of the pretty good stock speakers i have but u cant really tell LOL.. so i dunno.. basically i have those two in the back and then 2 in the front on the driver and passenger doors.

 
If you think those stock speakers are good, you are on crack. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

No but seriously, those speakers really are not good at all. But then again what is good to me, might be OMFG AWESOME to you....Really what you need to focus on when you are sound deadening(sound proofing) your corolla is:

take all of the trunk paneling out, carpet etc.. and just get some sort of deadener over that metal... dynamat, second skin, ramaat, etc.....

You want to do the exact same thing on the doors.

Here are a couple of pictures of my front doors sound proofed with dynamat:

Left door fully done from the inside and the outside:

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Right door only done on the inside panel, and outside but still need to cover the holes:

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here is a picture of my big 3, upgraded wires: YOU WILL NEED TO DO THIS.

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And I have alot of other pictures, Im acctually installing everything this friday, ive been waiting a long time.

 
I see some good advice has been given since I left the thread the other day. I say listen to Hintzyboy as he has made some nice recomendations. Those PG subs may seem cheap, but do a nice job. I at one time thought about getting a couple, but went with something else. Also the ED amp is good, especially the 5 channel as you can run everything on that. So right away saving money as you won't have to get another amp. For a first system, what Hintzy recommended was right on par. Shit, I wish that was my first system back in the day.

I do believe Stevyhustle is just trying to make a sell. Shit anytime someone comes into a thread trying to push their shit is trying to make a sell. Can't even really blame him, but that is all he is trying to do. Not really helping you make the right choice. I will say that stuff he has is pretty good, but as far as it being way better than what Hintzy said, nope! Everything is install, install.........install! People should know that, that have been around for awhile. Not saying what Stevie's couldn't be louder, better sounding or what not or vicea versa.

As far as sound deadening goes. Seems Kriz might scare you off. Is really not that hard to do, just time consuming. I just did my trunk in my Focus and it took me a total of 10 hours and two weeks to do just 1 layer, but that is because of my attention to detail and work schedule. Only takes common sense and to take your time. As long as you know how to use a screwdriver and some other basic tools, then you should be good to go. This was my first time and I have gotten nothing but good reviews over at Secondskins forum.

 
Your choice of sub is also going to be affected by how much trunk space you want to use up. That HDC3 is heavy, and will probably require a larger box. So in the case that you have to remove the sub: flat tire, road trips, whatever, the larger sub and box are going to be more of a hassle. Depending on what kind of sound you want, it might be worth the hassle. Just soemthing to think about.

 
Yeah sound deadening is not that difficult, and if you end up getting it done at a shop.... its going to cost you a pretty penny. Its ALL labor, and I wouldnt be suprised if you were charged $1000 for your trunk and 2 front doors.

 
hahahaha hintzyboy still tellin him bs he aint gotta remove nothin relax bro.
So what happens when he gets a flat tire on the highway? He will have to remove the box to get to his spare. A lot of people here live with the hassle because they want their stuff really loud. It's just something he needs to think about.

You really need to stop being such a deceitful dickhead.

 
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