Need some superb Tweeters!!!

[Alejandro14]

thr most i can spend is 150 ' its for a f150 build i am doing ' i was looking into sundown audio component tweeters ' crescendo audio ' i dont want super tweeters those huge ones i want 4 2 in front 2 in back seats comment me which component tweeters are good and can handle high volumes ofcourse no distortion thanks .

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[kr15 5,000+ posts]

I definately believe in diminishing returns on tweets. Does a 100$ tweet sound better than a 20$ tweet?...probably.....does a 1000$ tweet sound better than a 200$ tweet?..not so sure. The 3 best tweets ive heard are Hertz Mille, Audison Voce and some HAT tweets (iv of v's, idr). All were in excellent installs. Although these are viewed as higher end tweets, i dont think they are A+ audiophile class.

 

[Alejandro14]

gzz ' 2 grand to much lol '

but from this brands which one would yoi guys pick over sound and quality ?

crescendo audio ' sundown audio ' memphis audio ' skar audio ' Massive audio '?!? remember price range from 50-150 ' amp pushes 4 0hm-50 rms . i headunit goes to 50 but i just bump it up to 38 sounds gppd but the tweeters on my speakers you can barely hear them

thanks guys.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

gzz ' 2 grand to much lol '
but from this brands which one would yoi guys pick over sound and quality ?

crescendo audio ' sundown audio ' memphis audio ' skar audio ' Massive audio '?!? remember price range from 50-150 ' amp pushes 4 0hm-50 rms . i headunit goes to 50 but i just bump it up to 38 sounds gppd but the tweeters on my speakers you can barely hear them

thanks guys.

None of the above. I can find you better. But I have to know if you have a crossover already. You can't have a tweeter without a CO on a full range channel.

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

gzz ' 2 grand to much lol '
but from this brands which one would yoi guys pick over sound and quality ?

crescendo audio ' sundown audio ' memphis audio ' skar audio ' Massive audio '?!? remember price range from 50-150 ' amp pushes 4 0hm-50 rms . i headunit goes to 50 but i just bump it up to 38 sounds gppd but the tweeters on my speakers you can barely hear them

thanks guys.

You are naming subwoofer and amp brands. They arent good tweeter companies at all. Dont even bother looking at them. Now you can run things right with proper tweeter selection along with proper crossovers or you can just buy some super tweets that come with inline crossovers since It sounds like you like it extra extra bright and harsh.

Ideally you want a 3 way network capable head unit. Most NEW 2016 cheap pioneers head units can do this nowadays. From that you can set your crossovers right along with time alignment and plenty of EQ bands to get the proper sound. If you dont have any plans for this and just want to slap on some tweeters without any crossovers. Expect to blow a fk ton of tweeters then.. If you get tweeters with in line crossovers, then expect low quality to mediocre results. All your choice buddy. The right way or the i'll remain ignorant way.

 

[JohnKuthe]

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Ideally you want a 3 way network capable head unit. Most NEW 2016 cheap pioneers head units can do this nowadays. From that you can set your crossovers right along with time alignment and plenty of EQ bands to get the proper sound. If you dont have any plans for this and just want to slap on some tweeters without any crossovers. Expect to blow a fk ton of tweeters then.. If you get tweeters with in line crossovers, then expect low quality to mediocre results. All your choice buddy. The right way or the i'll remain ignorant way.

I dunno, what do you think of PHD's passive crossover circuits for their 2 way separate tweeter sets? Like the PHD 5.1 AF 5.25" with separate tweeter? PHD seems to me to be a company that can probably build a fairly decent passive crossover.

http://www.phd.it/welcome_to/speakers/af51comp_kit.asp

John Kuthe...

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

I dunno, what do you think of PHD's passive crossover circuits for their 2 way separate tweeter sets? Like the PHD 5.1 AF 5.25" with separate tweeter? PHD seems to me to be a company that can probably build a fairly decent passive crossover.
PHD - Speakers - Model AF 5.1 KIT COMPETITION -

John Kuthe...

Usually hit or miss depending on the vehicle and the vehicle's acoustical properties. Basically why most competition winning systems dont use passive crossovers since its a set crossover point. Every speaker set will sound different in each car based on the car door shape, airspace along with how the sound waves reflect and even down to the seat fabric and shape of the windshield/A pillars. Also Passive crossovers is just another circuit board that builds up heat and causes inefficiency in the system so clean power output to mid and tweet is further limited. You basically have ZERO control over the output of the mid and tweeter. Based on the acoustics, you sometimes need to lower the tweeter or mid in order for the drivers to perfectly blend. Hence why the highest end install shops design the whole speaker system around a vehicle's acoustics with proper testing via RTA and many other acoustical tests. Basically just from driver selection and using proper crossover points, you can achieve already magnificent results many others can only dream of. Afterwards, the EQ and time alignment brings it to the next level along with acoustical treatments.

This is a basic process of a shop in my area. Sometimes they even change the seat fabric in order to get a perfect acoustical listening environment while keeping the car extremely classy(they mainly work on porsche, higher end mercedes and other supercars.) I have to say their demo cars are way up there in terms of the best sounding vehicles i've listened to. I'd say easily rivaling the MECA SQ world finalist car from my subjective point of view.

As a former phd fb pro user... Their crossovers is so so very overpriced for what you get. CDT and PHD are "high end wannabe" companies i'll never waste my money on ever again. I achieved way better results with drivers that are built much tougher and reliable along with way better sound at a fraction of the price.

 

[JohnKuthe]

Usually hit or miss depending on the vehicle and the vehicle's acoustical properties. Basically why most competition winning systems dont use passive crossovers since its a set crossover point. Every speaker set will sound different in each car based on the car door shape, airspace along with how the sound waves reflect and even down to the seat fabric and shape of the windshield/A pillars. Also Passive crossovers is just another circuit board that builds up heat and causes inefficiency in the system so clean power output to mid and tweet is further limited. You basically have ZERO control over the output of the mid and tweeter. Based on the acoustics, you sometimes need to lower the tweeter or mid in order for the drivers to perfectly blend. Hence why the highest end install shops design the whole speaker system around a vehicle's acoustics with proper testing via RTA and many other acoustical tests. Basically just from driver selection and using proper crossover points, you can achieve already magnificent results many others can only dream of. Afterwards, the EQ and time alignment brings it to the next level along with acoustical treatments.
This is a basic process of a shop in my area. Sometimes they even change the seat fabric in order to get a perfect acoustical listening environment while keeping the car extremely classy(they mainly work on porsche, higher end mercedes and other supercars.) I have to say their demo cars are way up there in terms of the best sounding vehicles i've listened to. I'd say easily rivaling the MECA SQ world finalist car from my subjective point of view.

As a former phd fb pro user... Their crossovers is so so very overpriced for what you get. CDT and PHD are "high end wannabe" companies i'll never waste my money on ever again. I achieved way better results with drivers that are built much tougher and reliable along with way better sound at a fraction of the price.

Thanks fore your opinion. You realize your opinion is just that, and I will take it with as many grains of salt as it's worth. Overpriced? Certainly, but I have a little money to play with so...

And I noticed in your ranting you offer NO concrete better suggestions!! Typical of the junk I get here. Lots of ego, no real substance!

John Kuthe...

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

Thanks fore your opinion. You realize your opinion is just that, and I will take it with as many grains of salt as it's worth. Overpriced? Certainly, but I have a little money to play with so...
And I noticed in your ranting you offer NO concrete better suggestions!! Typical of the junk I get here. Lots of ego, no real substance!

John Kuthe...

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Why do I even bother giving you a legit explanation. You'll probably regurgitate this info at the soonest chance possible and make it sound like your retarded @ss is the genius that learned it before anyone else at another forum. I wouldn't be talking about EGO bro. Your self esteem is utter sh*t, you put yourself on a high horse with every post you make trying to seem relevant while you have absolutely no clue how to function in a proper society.

Again the best advice you can take is from a buckshot straight into your mouth through your brains. Make the world a better place //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/violent.gif.ccf64f7a34b20886d220db2fbff36f3b.gif

 

[JohnKuthe]

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Again the best advice you can take is from a buckshot straight into your mouth through your brains. Make the world a better place //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/violent.gif.ccf64f7a34b20886d220db2fbff36f3b.gif

Ah, wanna wallow in personal insults, eh? Jerk! Hope you get Alzheimer's AND shingles!!

John Kuthe...

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

Ah, wanna wallow in personal insults, eh? Jerk! Hope you get Alzheimer's AND shingles!!


John Kuthe...

who's the jerk here? I give you a proper explanation while you talk sh*t and start sh*t. What a godd@m Fucktard

 

[JohnKuthe]

who's the jerk here? I give you a proper explanation while you talk sh*t and start sh*t. What a godd@m Fucktard

Have I cursed at you once? No. That says a lot!

John Kuthe...

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

Have I cursed at you once? No. That says a lot!
John Kuthe...

Eat a d*ck at least i dont look like this

 

[JohnKuthe]

Eat a d*ck at least i dont look like this

Can't whitewater paddle or roll a kayak either, I'll bet! ;-)

John Kuthe...

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Can't whitewater paddle or roll a kayak either, I'll bet! ;-)
John Kuthe...

Why did you ask his opinion? Yes those are off the shelf crossovers. Yes PHD is mediocre. The reason you don't see any cars at finals using them now when you did a few years because they where the new forum boner. They had the fasted boner death I've ever seen

And shut the **** up about stuff nobody cares about you loser.

 

[JohnKuthe]

Why did you ask his opinion? Yes those are off the shelf crossovers. Yes PHD is mediocre. The reason you don't see any cars at finals using them now when you did a few years because they where the new forum boner. They had the fasted boner death I've ever seen

Oh well, I guess I bought a $640 POS then! My audio system is doomed! ;-)

And shut the **** up about stuff nobody cares about you loser.

Insults! Personal insults! Must **** to be YOU! ;-)

John Kuthe...