Need more bass

[inteva6184]

You may be maxed out....and if your limited on space and have more watts, then might be at a dead stop. Unless you get another vehicle...

I have more room without doing anything crazy it looks like I can do a total of 4 8's easier than 3 10's so 8's are the answer I think.

You should be able to get 4 8’s in there and you have the power so you could be seeing a fairly good gainHow skilled are you at making boxes?

You could fiberglass the floor to get a little extra cf

I can build pretty much anything I come up with but I should be able to get the space without doing anything crazy.

 

[inteva6184]

You should be able to get 4 8’s in there and you have the power so you could be seeing a fairly good gainHow skilled are you at making boxes?

You could fiberglass the floor to get a little extra cf

I just realized you are one of the guys that replied to me on caraudioclassified. I am glad I took your advice to get the 5000 the extra power definitely woke them up but ultimately more cone area is going to be my fix.

 

[tymoto21 10+ year member]

Good

Those little 8’s are great woofers and can take a beating

That and headroom is always a good thing on your power

 

[inteva6184]

Just askin'... whats your space available?.. it's a 2" lift?.. 54" wide at least?

Think 2 Sa-10's would be enough?.. it's 2.9ft3 net around 33hz

So I have been doing all the math and I dont know how you ended up with 2.9 net. I have been stretching all my numbers and am not coming close to that. I am assuming either the seat would not go all the way down or the box stuck out the front by a fair amount.

 

[shredder2]

What I used are basically the overall dimensions I used for this box... http://www.caraudio.com/forums/subwoofers/635110-sa-10s-under-powered.html ... It turned out great according to the OP, fit right up under there with a 2" seat lift... Here I re-ported it with 6" round to take more power

the original box was dual 4" pvc (20in2 of port) so I redid it with a 6" round (27in2 of port)... here it is in Torres quick and dirty

It is for 2 SA-10's ported, he made his own seat lift IIRC but stated it was 2" and the box fit correctly and flush. Its even less width than his BTW and should have plenty of room for the port to breathe.

 

[inteva6184]

What I used are basically the overall dimensions I used for this box... http://www.caraudio.com/forums/subwoofers/635110-sa-10s-under-powered.html ... It turned out great according to the OP, fit right up under there with a 2" seat lift... Here I re-ported it with 6" round to take more power

the original box was dual 4" pvc (20in2 of port) so I redid it with a 6" round (27in2 of port)... here it is in Torres quick and dirty

It is for 2 SA-10's ported, he made his own seat lift IIRC but stated it was 2" and the box fit correctly and flush. Its even less width than his BTW and should have plenty of room for the port to breathe.

So weird when I go to the12volt.com I come up with 3.06 gross when I use torres I get 3.6 gross. I wish I paid closer attention in math so I could determine which one of them is being a little ****!

 

[shredder2]

So weird when I go to the12volt.com I come up with 3.06 gross when I use torres I get 3.6 gross. I wish I paid closer attention in math so I could determine which one of them is being a little ****!

I ALWAYS use Winisd in conjunction with Torres on every design I do... maybe I'll learn BB6 someday but for now Sketchup has got me occupied tryin out new things.

 

[inteva6184]

I ALWAYS use Winisd in conjunction with Torres on every design I do... maybe I'll learn BB6 someday but for now Sketchup has got me occupied tryin out new things.

I didn't know winisd had a box volume calculator. I am concerned that rockfordfosgates box calculator gave me the same gross volume that 12 volt did. I am starting to wonder if torres is whacked out.

 

[shredder2]

I didn't know winisd had a box volume calculator. I am concerned that rockfordfosgates box calculator gave me the same gross volume that 12 volt did. I am starting to wonder if torres is whacked out.

Winisd is modeling software... that allows me to size the volume/port for whatever power is being used... Torres is a box calculator, another one I use is explicit... box calcs are only to find the volume/dimensions AFTER its been modeled

Torres is pretty accurate if used correctly..

Idk bout the others... lol

 

[inteva6184]

Winisd is modeling software... that allows me to size the port... Torres is a box calculator, another one I use is explicit... box calcs are only to find the volume/dimensions AFTER its been modeled

Oh, ok, that's kind of what I thought. I feel like torres might be wrong on the volume. The dimensions you have are what I was shooting for except my front wouldnt be slanted like yours. Mine would be 54 wide 11" front 8" back and 14" deep. every calc I use comes up with about 3.1

 

[shredder2]

I cant account for what you are seeing... but this was another done with Winisd/Torres... and it turned out well like all the others.

http://www.caraudio.com/forums/car-audio-build-logs-cars-trucks-suvs/635975-diy-build-4th-gen-ram-1500-regular-cab.html

Torres works in my experience

 

[shredder2]

Oh, ok, that's kind of what I thought. I feel like torres might be wrong on the volume. The dimensions you have are what I was shooting for except my front wouldnt be slanted like yours. Mine would be 54 wide 11" front 8" back and 14" deep. every calc I use comes up with about 3.1

Every calc comes up with 3.1ft3 net?.. are you using a 6"ish round and 2 SA-10's or 3 or 4 drivers like you talk about above?.. that 2.9ft3 is net ...after displacements.

 

[inteva6184]

Every calc comes up with 3.1ft3 net?.. are you using a 6"ish round and 2 SA-10's or 3 or 4 drivers like you talk about above?.. that 2.9ft3 is net ...after displacements.

No, they're coming up with that number gross. I just laid it out on a piece of wood and took the measurements the good old fashioned way and got exactly what Rockford and 12 volt said I should. I feel like Torres is fawked when it comes to finding out volume.

 

[shredder2]

No, they're coming up with that number gross. I just laid it out on a piece of wood and took the measurements the good old fashioned way and got exactly what Rockford and 12 volt said I should. I feel like Torres is fawked when it comes to finding out volume.

Just one more question... are you using a round port or a slot?

 

[inteva6184]

Just one more question... are you using a round port or a slot?

Around 6 in but I'm not sure if it's going to fit it's going to be close. But that doesn't have anything to do with the gross.