Need a sub that goes LOW.

[B_Campbell 10+ year member]

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[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Funny you should say that, I based much of that off what I read in one of the stickies: http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showpost.php?p=562172&postcount=15



Hense the reason I specifially was looking for a sub that would play low, preferably in a ported enclosure. Creating the enlosurer is the easy part, I can make it whatever size is needed (within limits of course, don't want no 40sqft enclosure as being the optimal size), but getting that specific sub that will play extremely low in a properly tuned box may be a bit tougher.

I didn't want to get a sub that "performs terribly" in a box that I want tuned down to about 25hz or lower. There have been a few songs that my 12" infinity perfects had trouble playing, and they were in a sealed box. Sure I can hear them doing a pretty good job (actually, feeling is a better term for it). But there are times where I could hear them trying, but they just can't make any bass at that frequency. I cannot remember off hand the songs. Seems like ICP may have been one of them, but it's been years since I listened to that band, so I can't recall which song it was. Was a song that had a series of bass notes get progressively lower.

I dont see anywhere in there that helo says the speaker dictates frequency response more than the enclosure itself. And if he had said that, which he didn't, I would have disagreed.

 

[ent3rdadragon 10+ year member]

a css sdx may be what u want. box recommendations is tuned to 25hz.

 

[bonesninja 5,000+ posts]

RL-s

 

[Unholysavage 10+ year member]

a css sdx may be what u want. box recommendations is tuned to 25hz.

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And if you ever get tired of them in your truck, they work very well for HT.

 

[jdraughn 10+ year member]

I dont see anywhere in there that helo says the speaker dictates frequency response more than the enclosure itself. And if he had said that, which he didn't, I would have disagreed.

Where did I say that the speaker dictates frequency response more then the enclosure itself?

The performance of an enclosure volume and tuning depend entirely on the sub used in the enclosure. You can't just say build a box to this volume and tuning and any sub you throw in it will work well.

The above quote is from the article I was basing my decisions on.

It's BOTH the speaker and the enclosure combined that dictate the frequency response. I can build an enclosure to go low with a speaker that is designed to go low in a properly tuned ported enclosure, but I can't build an enclosure to go low if the sub in it isin't designed to go low a ported box too. Why im looking for the sub first that can go very low, preferably in a ported box, then once I find a sub in my price range that looks like a good fit, then I can start looking into the enclosure for it.

At the moment I am leaning torward multiple 10" subs, at least 4, maybe as many as 8. I would like to keep the height of the box kinda low so I can still carry sheets of wood or what not without them sticking up too much.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Where did I say that the speaker dictates frequency response more then the enclosure itself?

I stated the enclosure dictates it moreso than the speaker, and you disagreed. *shrug*

I can build an enclosure to go low with a speaker that is designed to go low in a properly tuned ported enclosure, but I can't build an enclosure to go low if the sub in it isin't designed to go low a ported box too.

First off, you are comparing an ideal situation, to a compromise. That does not set the norm. Second of all, one of the first projects we did at the installer school I attended years ago was to build an enclosure for a small speaker (3.5" iirc). It wouldn't shake windows, but yes it hit the low notes. A valuable lesson was learned that day.
My point was, spend 20% of your time worrying about which brand name of sub you purchase, and 80% of your time designing/building the right enclosure, placing it properly, tuning it correctly, etc... (namely, spend more time on install than brand choice) and you can't hardly go wrong. However, spend 80% of your time finding that one speaker whose specs make your shorts stiff, and 20% of your time on the install, as per the normk around here these days... and you'll likely end up with a mediocre system.

"The performance of an enclosure volume and tuning depend entirely on the sub used in the enclosure. You can't just say build a box to this volume and tuning and any sub you throw in it will work well. "

I believe you are misinterpreting this quote. Helo is not stating the speaker choice is phenomenally important, he's stating enclosure requirements change per speaker/situation, therefore its not a 'one box fits all' situation.

 

[donpisto 5,000+ posts]

My RL-p got quite low and was impressive, but even more impressive is my TC 5200. Pretty intense....especially at 14 Hz //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif