More 4th order questions.

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

So after I'm about to start ordering the other 18s for the jeep. In the sealed section of the 4th, do you need the full manufacturers specified sealed size? or smaller/larger? What is a good sealed size for an 18 in a 4th? If I'm walling I want to do it right the first time! lol
4 EVL 18s unless something changes. I'll replace them with something better once I can afford better.

If you have to ask this, you arent ready for a 4th order. Sealed size always depends on resonant frequency meaning you need a meter and throw all manufacturer recommendations aside... Seriously those skar recommended specs are garbage, 4.5 cubes ported for an 18 is beyond garbage, they model best with 10 cubic feet tuned to 31 hz per sub. Your sealed needs to peak in the 45 to 50hz range and your ported needs to be tuned exactly at that frequency. 4th orders only work when you have a meter, a lot of spare wood and time with a lot of testing and dedication. Build and pray 4th orders usually never break 150 because they are often done wrong.

Yeah I agree the skars are poorly designed drivers. They needed to soften up the suspension a bit because their motor is too weak. Or strengthen the motor. There's a reason why they are cheap. I'd rather get hdc3s than the EVL, almost similar price, gets much louder, sounds much better.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

I can't afford both of them at once or I would. I could buy one but not both. The best Idea for my financial status if I want that Motor is to just buy the motor then buy baskets and soft parts
I also could just get the wall built with the EVLs and then sell and swap in big beefy subs when I can afford 2 at once.

Good luck finding 4hp motors or building them for less than he is asking. You will not do better for the money. Also weren't you just ready to drop 1000$ on 3 more Skars?

 

[dudeogo]

Good luck finding 4hp motors or building them for less than he is asking. You will not do better for the money. Also weren't you just ready to drop 1000$ on 3 more Skars?

Not all at once I wasn't. Was gonna grab one every couple weeks

 

[dudeogo]

Good luck finding 4hp motors or building them for less than he is asking. You will not do better for the money. Also weren't you just ready to drop 1000$ on 3 more Skars?

And true. I really want those woofers. I've had my eye on them

 

[THATpurpleKUSH 5,000+ posts]

For the love of car audio don't buy Skar Audio.

 

[kr15 5,000+ posts]

Why dont you just run the 1 18evl no wall until you save up?

Plan your wall properly, dont rush into it

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

And true. I really want those woofers. I've had my eye on them

They easily 152 on music no wall on 4k

 

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

huh...had no idea the evl series was poorly designed. I think @shredder1 is running a pair of 12's.

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

[quote name='Boomin_tahoe']huh...had no idea the evl series was poorly designed. I think @shredder1 is running a pair of 12's.[/QUOTE]

its a cheap sub that works and can take some power however its overall balance is completely off compared to the good to "okay" subs on the market. Its basically Kevin picked together the cheapest parts and had china assemble it using a big looking but overall very weak motor just to attract noobs looking for the next "cheap" big thing.

 

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

its a cheap sub that works and can take some power however its overall balance is completely off compared to the good to "okay" subs on the market. Its basically Kevin picked together the cheapest parts and had china assemble it using a big looking but overall very weak motor just to attract noobs looking for the next "cheap" big thing.

Gotcha. Glad I didn't buy any Skar...

 

[dudeogo]

Why dont you just run the 1 18evl no wall until you save up?
Plan your wall properly, dont rush into it

I mean that's what I'm doing currently. It's meh.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

picked together the cheapest parts and had china assemble it using a big looking but overall very weak motor just to attract noobs looking for the next "cheap" big thing.

That about sums up 99% of the industry.

 

[kr15 5,000+ posts]

1 18 shouldnt be meh...and if it is, why would you want to do 4 meh 18s?