manual cars are the sh1t

[*SlappinAzz*]

your clutch is slipping the entire time you are applying pressure to the pedal , a racing clutch slips a hell of a lot less. if you arent on the gas when you let out the slightest bit its like dumping a regular clutch. Bang! Stall everytime , but unlike a regular clutch , when its time to go , and you have 500+ horses under the hood , a racing clutch instantly grabs without slipping , which means instant full power to the wheels.

ah, i see. sound like a pain in the azz if your not a racer.

 

[Bassin Buick]

ah, i see. sound like a pain in the azz if your not a racer.

believe me its real fun to drive when you and your buddies are out ******* around but in traffic of any kind its pure hell.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

your clutch is slipping the entire time you are applying pressure to the pedal , a racing clutch slips a hell of a lot less. if you arent on the gas when you let out the slightest bit its like dumping a regular clutch. Bang! Stall everytime , but unlike a regular clutch , when its time to go , and you have 500+ horses under the hood , a racing clutch instantly grabs without slipping , which means instant full power to the wheels.

This is not exactly true. When you depress the clutch pedal, the clutch plates completely disengage, its not slipping. 'Slipping' the clutch refers to allowing the clutch plates to slide past each other, allowing *some* force to pass between them. Ive heard people call it 'slipping the clutch' to disengage the clutch and coast down a hill, but this is a common misconception. You slip a clutch, for example, when you are at a stop light, parked uphill, and ease the clutch out just enough so the engine/****** holds you in place rather than the brakes.

'Racing clutches' usually have stiffer springs that force the two clutch plates together, meaning once the clutch plates come in contact with each other, they tend to slip less as the driven plate 'catches up' the the powered clutch plate.

If manual transmissions are yesterday's news, someone needs to tell the people who build race cars. Most still employ a clutch/transmission of some sort (yes, even dual-clutch types). Even the infamous Lenco transmissions are manual, albeit some of them use a compressed air shifting system. 'Dual-clutch' transmissions are a descendant of a manual transmission, essentially two manual transmissions in one case, and many are still shifted manually. "Automatic" transmissions employ fluid to pass force from the engine to the rest of the drivetrain. So if we are going to use the dual-clutch ****** as an example, it should be used as an example of a manual transmission, not an automatic, as cotjones is mistakenly doing here. Maybe he knows of an Italian dual-clutch ****** that uses clutches rather than fluid, since he's clearly such an expert on how vehicles operate.

 

[*SlappinAzz*]

This is not exactly true. When you depress the clutch pedal, the clutch plates completely disengage, its not slipping. 'Slipping' the clutch refers to allowing the clutch plates to slide past each other, allowing *some* force to pass between them. Ive heard people call it 'slipping the clutch' to disengage the clutch and coast down a hill, but this is a common misconception. You slip a clutch, for example, when you are at a stop light, parked uphill, and ease the clutch out just enough so the engine/****** holds you in place rather than the brakes.
'Racing clutches' usually have stiffer springs that force the two clutch plates together, meaning once the clutch plates come in contact with each other, they tend to slip less as the driven plate 'catches up' the the powered clutch plate.

If manual transmissions are yesterday's news, someone needs to tell the people who build race cars. Most still employ a clutch/transmission of some sort (yes, even dual-clutch types). Even the infamous Lenco transmissions are manual, albeit some of them use a compressed air shifting system. 'Dual-clutch' transmissions are a descendant of a manual transmission, essentially two manual transmissions in one case, and many are still shifted manually. "Automatic" transmissions employ fluid to pass force from the engine to the rest of the drivetrain. So if we are going to use the dual-clutch ****** as an example, it should be used as an example of a manual transmission, not an automatic, as cotjones is mistakenly doing here. Maybe he knows of an Italian dual-clutch ****** that uses clutches rather than fluid, since he's clearly such an expert on how vehicles operate.

I love your long paragraphs.

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[Suicide Bobb 5,000+ posts]

I love your long paragraphs.
And //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif......I read every word of it.

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[*SlappinAzz*]

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I read all mah special homies paragraphs. Your fight with cotfag was hilarious.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

I love your long paragraphs.
And //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif......I read every word of it.

I love you.

 

[Bassin Buick]

This is not exactly true. When you depress the clutch pedal, the clutch plates completely disengage, its not slipping. 'Slipping' the clutch refers to allowing the clutch plates to slide past each other, allowing *some* force to pass between them. Ive heard people call it 'slipping the clutch' to disengage the clutch and coast down a hill, but this is a common misconception. You slip a clutch, for example, when you are at a stop light, parked uphill, and ease the clutch out just enough so the engine/****** holds you in place rather than the brakes.
'Racing clutches' usually have stiffer springs that force the two clutch plates together, meaning once the clutch plates come in contact with each other, they tend to slip less as the driven plate 'catches up' the the powered clutch plate.

If manual transmissions are yesterday's news, someone needs to tell the people who build race cars. Most still employ a clutch/transmission of some sort (yes, even dual-clutch types). Even the infamous Lenco transmissions are manual, albeit some of them use a compressed air shifting system. 'Dual-clutch' transmissions are a descendant of a manual transmission, essentially two manual transmissions in one case, and many are still shifted manually. "Automatic" transmissions employ fluid to pass force from the engine to the rest of the drivetrain. So if we are going to use the dual-clutch ****** as an example, it should be used as an example of a manual transmission, not an automatic, as cotjones is mistakenly doing here. Maybe he knows of an Italian dual-clutch ****** that uses clutches rather than fluid, since he's clearly such an expert on how vehicles operate.

I didnt mean what you were saying , i just meant as you ease the pedal out the clutch slips (doesn't grab completly) , but a racing clutch is so stiff that there is a lot less slip which leads to a more forceful power transfer to the rear axle/wheels. i was just telling him how its nowhere near as smooth as having a standard street clutch.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

I didnt mean what you were saying , i just meant as you ease the pedal out the clutch slips (doesn't grab completly) , but a racing clutch is so stiff that there is a lot less slip which leads to a more forceful power transfer to the rear axle/wheels. i was just telling him how its nowhere near as smooth as having a standard street clutch.

Gotcha.

 

[Bassin Buick]

hey audioholic , can i pick your brain in a pm about a problem i have discovered tonight while browsing the classifieds?

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

hey audioholic , can i pick your brain in a pm about a problem i have discovered tonight while browsing the classifieds?

Sure thing. If I can help, I will. You dont need to ask if you can PM me.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

If manual transmissions are yesterday's news, someone needs to tell the people who build race cars. Most still employ a clutch/transmission of some sort (yes, even dual-clutch types). Even the infamous Lenco transmissions are manual, albeit some of them use a compressed air shifting system. 'Dual-clutch' transmissions are a descendant of a manual transmission, essentially two manual transmissions in one case, and many are still shifted manually. "Automatic" transmissions employ fluid to pass force from the engine to the rest of the drivetrain. So if we are going to use the dual-clutch ****** as an example, it should be used as an example of a manual transmission, not an automatic, as cotjones is mistakenly doing here. Maybe he knows of an Italian dual-clutch ****** that uses clutches rather than fluid, since he's clearly such an expert on how vehicles operate.

You know what i mean, yes Manuals are still used but largely because there are still too many idiots like some of them on this forum who think not shifting a manual means they have no balls. More and more of the big racing and exotic cars are going to the slap shift type , tiptronic, etc. And i'm calling it more of an automatic because there is no manually depressed clutch, you shift with a button press. but i'm referring specifically to the type of Dual-clutched ****** in the GT-R and the similar one in the Veyron. But anyway thats why I was referring to it as a semi-automatic, which is what they are referred to as in general. I've never once heard anyone call them a semi-manual, so i don't know what you were trying to get at there.I wasn't mistakingly calling them anything, thats what they are.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

Wow, once again the whole point of what I was saying just managed to soar over your head again. How fast a car shifts or goes 0-60 is irrelevant if the car is not fun to drive! As I said before, you would rather be in a Ferrari that drives itself from 0-lightspeed in 0.0000581 seconds than drive an E46 M3 (manual). Typical guy who thinks he is a car guy but only cares about numbers.


AudiWorld - Model Guide - Go to S4, scroll down to the bottom and click on the 1994.

My car came equipped with all of the standard options obviously (read the list), and all the optional amenities too, besides the delete sunroof option.

The S4 is more advanced, handles better, is more fun to drive, isn't a chick car, can handle any terrain limited only by the ground clearance, is waaay more comfortable, better built, sounds way nicer, has more gizmos and gadgets, seats 5 better, etc. than your Eclipse. What does your Eclipse have on it? Less miles, better stock sound system, and...that's about it. Not to mention that you paid 3 times as much for it.

Right. I'm guessing by V8 you mean something with less cylinders than yours (given that yours is a V6, which I assume it is). And it uses it's power about twice as well as yours does, transmitting power separately to twice as many wheels, with the option of locking the rear wheels with the push of a button. The only time I spin the wheels is when I pull insane drifts in a parking lot that you could only dream of in your fwd p.o.s.

I love driving cars. I love the cars themselves. You're the one who gets a big dick about how many milliseconds it takes for your autotragic to shift. All you care about is the technical, soul-less application of vehicles. Anyone can learn those numbers. Hell, I know more numbers about cars than you do, but I don't go throwing them around like a self absorbed douchebag like you do, unless it's to show how much of a failure your vehicle purchase was that you are only denying on the outside.

You've pretty much lost me now, you aren't making any sense or any kind of logical comparison.

I didn't want to compare cars anyway but since you seem to want to...

My car has all the amenities your has and more. Including far more advanced features such as an active stability control that is among the best in the industry, 6-airbags, And the MIVEC Technology on the engine which gives me more power out of my V-6 than you get out of your turbocharged i5. You turbo boost gives you a little better low end, but then again my 6 speed gives me a lot of low end to, My car would be a close match for yours on the drag strip and tops quite a bit higher than yours. My interior is extremely comfortable and ergonomic and I think it's gorgeous on the outside, most people guess that its brand new too, yours just looks old. as far as well built, the Mitsubishi has a 10-year/100,000 warranty top to bottom (besides wear and tear) which was a great reason to buy it newer. Not to mention its just prettier, And i'm not just delusional, I've had random people walk up to me all the time just to comment how nice the car is. How many people walk up to you to comment that 1994?

Furthermore you want the real meat of the argument, the MSRP on your car is about $50,000, compared to the MSRP on mine of a mere $25,000. So from that perspective you paid twice as much as I did for about the same or less amenities and performance. It would be more of a comparison if your car wasn't 12 years farther depreciated than mine. Thus for an 06 model, the eclipse is a great car. Like i said, from a performance stand point its about the same or better than yours with an msrp of double it. So i'm not seeing why you are choosing to be such a stubborn ******* about it. If you don't like my car fine, i don't care, but it has everything yours has, and personally, i like the 6 speed more than the 5 speed, so if you don't like the way it looks who cares, alot of people do. You can't dog the car otherwise, its an awesome value for the performance, i'm sure if it was 12 years older it probably would sell for about the same price as yours. But i guess your too busy throwing around your imaginary car specifications to understand simple consents such as depreciation.

 

[tuckintaco93 10+ year member]

youll get tired of it i did and swaped to a auto...bumper to bumper traffic will make you wish you didnt have a clutch

 

[Suicide Bobb 5,000+ posts]

You've pretty much lost me now, you aren't making any sense or any kind of logical comparison.I didn't want to compare cars anyway but since you seem to want to...

My car has all the amenities your has and more. Including far more advanced features such as an active stability control that is among the best in the industry, 6-airbags, And the MIVEC Technology on the engine which gives me more power out of my V-6 than you get out of your turbocharged i5. You turbo boost gives you a little better low end, but then again my 6 speed gives me a lot of low end to, My car would be a close match for yours on the drag strip and tops quite a bit higher than yours. My interior is extremely comfortable and ergonomic and I think it's gorgeous on the outside, most people guess that its brand new too, yours just looks old. as far as well built, the Mitsubishi has a 10-year/100,000 warranty top to bottom (besides wear and tear) which was a great reason to buy it newer. Not to mention its just prettier, And i'm not just delusional, I've had random people walk up to me all the time just to comment how nice the car is. How many people walk up to you to comment that 1994?

Furthermore you want the real meat of the argument, the MSRP on your car is about $50,000, compared to the MSRP on mine of a mere $25,000. So from that perspective you paid twice as much as I did for about the same or less amenities and performance. It would be more of a comparison if your car wasn't 12 years farther depreciated than mine. Thus for an 06 model, the eclipse is a great car. Like i said, from a performance stand point its about the same or better than yours with an msrp of double it. So i'm not seeing why you are choosing to be such a stubborn ******* about it. If you don't like my car fine, i don't care, but it has everything yours has, and personally, i like the 6 speed more than the 5 speed, so if you don't like the way it looks who cares, alot of people do. You can't dog the car otherwise, its an awesome value for the performance, i'm sure if it was 12 years older it probably would sell for about the same price as yours. But i guess your too busy throwing around your imaginary car specifications to understand simple consents such as depreciation.

I have active stability control, probably just as many airbags (although idc honestly), and you're a total dumb shit if you think turbochargers give better low end. That is nowhere near the case, in fact it's nearly the direct opposite. You're interior is nowhere near as comfortable as mine, and you again would be absolutely wrong if you thought mine doesn't get any respect. I get plenty of people who know what they are talking about when it comes to cars talk about how understated and classy my car is. All you get is ricers who are like "Yo dood dats a sick whip mang you should get a huge exhaust and spoiler for that clean look mang". No self-respecting car enthusiast would ever appreciate a car with an ass larger than your mother's.

And no, I did not pay twice as much, I paid 1/3 of what you paid for your car. I would have been out of my mind to spend any money on a brand new car. You walk them off the lot and they lose half their value. And if it was 10 years from now, your car would be about $5k, and mine would be $2k. So still, no comparison. Finally, yes, I can, and just did dog the value of your car. There's a good reason why so few of them are on the road. They were only DECENT at best upon release, and soon fell terribly far behind the competition. I don't see any reason why you would buy that over a similarly price Mustang GT, because it will perform considerably better, be cheaper to fix, and not look like a vagina.

So here we are again. You still think that people drive manuals for the Peen factor, and you still think your car is cool and a good value. You are still wrong on all fronts. People drive manuals because it makes driving FUN. I fall asleep driving automatics through mountain roads, it's boring as all hell. All you do is steer and accelerate. I can do the same things in any video game, and with less risk. How fast the shifts are done is absolutely 100% irrelevant, unless you are racing. All that gives is little ricers like you the opportunity to throw numbers out to increase your Peen.

Why don't you ask any one of our forum members...ANY of them. Ask them if they think your car was a good buy for $12k when you could have gotten more for $8k less. Ask them if they think that shift times matter for everyday driving. I will sit back and enjoy the laughter from those you ask. I still have yet to see any person on this forum support your car in the least, and you continue to deny it...