louder than one 15...

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Jesus you guys are sad. I was not comparing the SX to the illustrious Type R, or starting some fight over it. I couldn't care less how those two particular subs compare. I do not nor do I expect to ever own either. I was stating you cannot simply say changing from sub X to sub Y will satisfy him. If you want to truely believe the Type is "magic", I guess you might believe this however. And well, I don't see a common ground we'll be meeting on in that case.

it will solve his problem,as it has for many peeps. i can read and i own a blazer and i kno many other people wit blazers. thats valuable space there buddy, depends on the setup. type R do have magic dust. firing rear is not always louder mister "generally speaking". im sure SX are known for their output, at higher notes. they can burp all day. but far as daily wise i wouldnt recommend it. far all around daily and still wanna do a 150, type R buddy

Yes, it is valuable space. And, as I said in my previous response (which I guess you missed), its plenty of room for mounting other needed items. But whatever, my original reply was in reference to what Ive found gave me the best output response, not what best fits SBLAZER's idea of efficient use of space. You don't like my suggestion, gee Im really surprised, coming from you. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif I wont lose any sleep over it. We disagree, aparently, oh well.

As for the SX versus Type R comparison, shout it to someone who cares. My post was not about that, nor do I care. Thanks for the opinion though.

BTW, 'generally speaking' means not always. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif

type R do have magic dust.

I know you really like the Type R, and that's cool. Clearly its a nice sub. But when you make comments like this, its hard to take any debate with you seriously. Have a nice night.

 

[Spkrman]

Jesus you guys are sad. I was not comparing the SX to the illustrious Type R, or starting some fight over it. I couldn't care less how those two particular subs compare. I do not nor do I expect to ever own either. I was stating you cannot simply say changing from sub X to sub Y will satisfy him. If you want to truely believe the Type is "magic", I guess you might believe this however. And well, I don't see a common ground we'll be meeting on in that case.

Couldn't care less... you made a big enough fuss about it in both our comparison threads.

And Im sorry, but Type R's do not have magic dust. Just switching to them will not solve everyone's problems. SX's are known for their output, and a 15" SX is no slouch, I would not assume just slamming a couple Type R's in there will make him happy. Unless, you want to just go along with the latest forum boner that Type R's are the best thing since sliced bread, then... meh.

your inferring the SX is a better sub than the type R...

As far as swapping from one sub to the other... 2 comparisons, and the SX didn't satisfy, type R did.

You continue to steer people away from the type R, and by your own account, you've never even owned one. If anything, suggest what you KNOW works... You don't see me poking around the MTX threads, why, because I havent gotten to them yet //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/cool.gif.3bcaf8f141236c00f8044d07150e34f7.gif

Until you PROVE it wrong, the type R DOES have that magic boom dust.

 

[digital mint 10+ year member]

Couldn't care less... you made a big enough fuss about it in both our comparison threads.


your inferring the SX is a better sub than the type R...

As far as swapping from one sub to the other... 2 comparisons, and the SX didn't satisfy, type R did.

You continue to steer people away from the type R, and by your own account, you've never even owned one. If anything, suggest what you KNOW works... You don't see me poking around the MTX threads, why, because I havent gotten to them yet //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/cool.gif.3bcaf8f141236c00f8044d07150e34f7.gif

Until you PROVE it wrong, the type R DOES have that magic boom dust.

get real!

 

[Spkrman]

get real!

? hmmm

 

[digital mint 10+ year member]

on that note , if your happy with you're alpine, it's all good, i have own all three of them (xxx, sx, type r) although the alpine was loud, it didn't do it for me. Please save me the box situation thing 'cause all been through a lot of them. the type r is a good sub for the price, it's a known thing but someone like me wanted to get that xtra special overrall goodness in the sound ( sorry for long sentence!) what's is bothering me here is That most new peeps here(please don't flame me) will jump or give in on the hype too fast. For those of you (you know who you are!) Make sure, if you're gonna spent a lot money that you try to listen to different set-ups and consider at the same time the vehicle the system is installed in. Not all of us has all the ressourse to experiment with different boxes etc...it just a matter of knowing what you want first.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Couldn't care less... you made a big enough fuss about it in both our comparison threads.


your inferring the SX is a better sub than the type R...

As far as swapping from one sub to the other... 2 comparisons, and the SX didn't satisfy, type R did.

You continue to steer people away from the type R, and by your own account, you've never even owned one. If anything, suggest what you KNOW works... You don't see me poking around the MTX threads, why, because I havent gotten to them yet //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/cool.gif.3bcaf8f141236c00f8044d07150e34f7.gif

Until you PROVE it wrong, the type R DOES have that magic boom dust.

First, are you telling me you do not care you are arguing a point against me that Im not making, because you felt I made some big fuss about it in some other thread, like weeks ago? I agree with the other guy on this one man, get real. Im not comparing the SX and the R in this thread, Ive stated that all along. Nor am I praising or bashing the Type R, its performance, its looks or if it had a bad childhood. Ive also made that very clear in this thread. It is not my problem you want to read things into my posts that are not there. Why are you so defensive of a brand and model of speaker? Seriously. Its almost weird how you expect people to walk on eggshells around what they say about 'your' sub. Letsa go back and look at what happened in this thread. I posted suggesting a mounting style, per my experience with blazers (spare me your disagreements btw), not even mention brand names of speakers. SBLAZER comes in, says my idea is lousy because it uses space badly (not even the point of the thread or my post) then suggests all his problems are solved by buying one specific brand of subwoofer. But omg, if I even suggest simple brand loyalty is a poor reason to change, Im bashing your precious Type R. Right.

Lastly, I do not have to prove Type R's don't have 'magic dust'. If you cannot understand why, then you have zero right to preach about people following blind internet boners, as you yourself are attempting to burst this forum's pants open with the R boner. So please, spare me the attitude, and the defensive posture any time I post within 3 miles of a Type R thread. You love the Type R and its giving you the performance you want, dude Im super happy for you, and anyone else that gets this satisfaction out of them. But if you think Im gonna ride that boner just based on your word they have 'magic boom dust' until I prove otherwise, you have another thing coming. You know alot, I give you all the credit in the world for that. But your ego, and your defensive posture on this sub, is out of hand.

 

[snb778 5,000+ posts]

isnt someone on here a member of a new website where they build boxes??? what is it?

 

[digital mint 10+ year member]

First, are you telling me you do not care you are arguing a point against me that Im not making, because you felt I made some big fuss about it in some other thread, like weeks ago? I agree with the other guy on this one man, get real. Im not comparing the SX and the R in this thread, Ive stated that all along. Nor am I praising or bashing the Type R, its performance, its looks or if it had a bad childhood. Ive also made that very clear in this thread. It is not my problem you want to read things into my posts that are not there. Why are you so defensive of a brand and model of speaker? Seriously. Its almost weird how you expect people to walk on eggshells around what they say about 'your' sub. Letsa go back and look at what happened in this thread. I posted suggesting a mounting style, per my experience with blazers (spare me your disagreements btw), not even mention brand names of speakers. SBLAZER comes in, says my idea is lousy because it uses space badly (not even the point of the thread or my post) then suggests all his problems are solved by buying one specific brand of subwoofer. But omg, if I even suggest simple brand loyalty is a poor reason to change, Im bashing your precious Type R. Right.
Lastly, I do not have to prove Type R's don't have 'magic dust'. If you cannot understand why, then you have zero right to preach about people following blind internet boners, as you yourself are attempting to burst this forum's pants open with the R boner. So please, spare me the attitude, and the defensive posture any time I post within 3 miles of a Type R thread. You love the Type R and its giving you the performance you want, dude Im super happy for you, and anyone else that gets this satisfaction out of them. But if you think Im gonna ride that boner just based on your word they have 'magic boom dust' until I prove otherwise, you have another thing coming. You know alot, I give you all the credit in the world for that. But your ego, and your defensive posture on this sub, is out of hand.

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/iagree.gif.15d6c075ee8d3913ba26866d06993068.gif

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

reason spkrman doesnt say how too clearly is it is dependant on the vehicle and from that he designs a box. spkrman sells boxxes not plans. he has a few guys set up doing some really good numbers in meca and came out here to do a db drag. sq wise in his slapped together db drag set up (lol he didnt spend all day setting it up ill put it that way) wasnt any worse than alot of bumper woofers have heard. he just found his niche and is using it for business/competition

 

[Spkrman]

on that note , if your happy with you're alpine, it's all good, i have own all three of them (xxx, sx, type r) although the alpine was loud, it didn't do it for me. Please save me the box situation thing 'cause all been through a lot of them. the type r is a good sub for the price, it's a known thing but someone like me wanted to get that xtra special overrall goodness in the sound ( sorry for long sentence!) what's is bothering me here is That most new peeps here(please don't flame me) will jump or give in on the hype too fast. For those of you (you know who you are!) Make sure, if you're gonna spent a lot money that you try to listen to different set-ups and consider at the same time the vehicle the system is installed in. Not all of us has all the ressourse to experiment with different boxes etc...it just a matter of knowing what you want first.

overall goodness?

If the R even remotely compared to the woofs (in your opinion, even) then its a killer buy... its less than half the price of an SX, and 1/4 the price of the XXX.

 

[Spkrman]

First, are you telling me you do not care you are arguing a point against me that Im not making, because you felt I made some big fuss about it in some other thread, like weeks ago? I agree with the other guy on this one man, get real. Im not comparing the SX and the R in this thread, Ive stated that all along. Nor am I praising or bashing the Type R, its performance, its looks or if it had a bad childhood. Ive also made that very clear in this thread. It is not my problem you want to read things into my posts that are not there. Why are you so defensive of a brand and model of speaker? Seriously. Its almost weird how you expect people to walk on eggshells around what they say about 'your' sub. Letsa go back and look at what happened in this thread. I posted suggesting a mounting style, per my experience with blazers (spare me your disagreements btw), not even mention brand names of speakers. SBLAZER comes in, says my idea is lousy because it uses space badly (not even the point of the thread or my post) then suggests all his problems are solved by buying one specific brand of subwoofer. But omg, if I even suggest simple brand loyalty is a poor reason to change, Im bashing your precious Type R. Right.
Lastly, I do not have to prove Type R's don't have 'magic dust'. If you cannot understand why, then you have zero right to preach about people following blind internet boners, as you yourself are attempting to burst this forum's pants open with the R boner. So please, spare me the attitude, and the defensive posture any time I post within 3 miles of a Type R thread. You love the Type R and its giving you the performance you want, dude Im super happy for you, and anyone else that gets this satisfaction out of them. But if you think Im gonna ride that boner just based on your word they have 'magic boom dust' until I prove otherwise, you have another thing coming. You know alot, I give you all the credit in the world for that. But your ego, and your defensive posture on this sub, is out of hand.

Here, I'll put it simple for you.

The type R is one of the better subs out PERIOD.... the 12 can be under 125 shipped.

Wow, it gets rec'd in alot of threads, to be expected! "forum boner"... thats how you put it, I see it as a good woofer being given its rightful respect.

Its not a "blind internet boner" the type R is a proven woofer!

As far as brand loyalty... why would you pay chevy twice as much as ford for the same car?

Excuse me for finding a killer mainstream woof that is incredibly cheap. Maybe you should call alpine and tell them to go back to the old design?

You rec what you what to rec in these threads, but explain to me how you are free to tell people to buy a woofer you have never touched, yet you think its bad that I tell people to buy a woofer with tried and true performance by ME thats within ANYONES price range?

Take it as you will, which as usual, will be the worst way possible //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

 

[supa_c 5,000+ posts]

Get a hold of fome funky pups.

They will pwn even the best subs. Type R is no match to the funky pup and thats a fact

/ thread

 

[Spkrman]

reason spkrman doesnt say how too clearly is it is dependant on the vehicle and from that he designs a box. spkrman sells boxxes not plans. he has a few guys set up doing some really good numbers in meca and came out here to do a db drag. sq wise in his slapped together db drag set up (lol he didnt spend all day setting it up ill put it that way) wasnt any worse than alot of bumper woofers have heard. he just found his niche and is using it for business/competition

hehe, I've found what works.. sue me if I get the word out //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

btw that setup pales in comparison to the way it sounds now... its absolutely unbelieve what these crappy little type R's can do!

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Here, I'll put it simple for you.
The type R is one of the better subs out PERIOD.... the 12 can be under 125 shipped.

Wow, it gets rec'd in alot of threads, to be expected! "forum boner"... thats how you put it, I see it as a good woofer being given its rightful respect.

Its not a "blind internet boner" the type R is a proven woofer!

As far as brand loyalty... why would you pay chevy twice as much as ford for the same car?

Excuse me for finding a killer mainstream woof that is incredibly cheap. Maybe you should call alpine and tell them to go back to the old design?

You rec what you what to rec in these threads, but explain to me how you are free to tell people to buy a woofer you have never touched, yet you think its bad that I tell people to buy a woofer with tried and true performance by ME thats within ANYONES price range?

Take it as you will, which as usual, will be the worst way possible //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

Again you defend the Type R ("type R is one of the better subs out PERIOD", "type R is a proven woofer!", "excuse me for finding a killer mainstream woof that is incredibly cheap" etc etc) and yet... Im not attacking it. lol I have not dispute one of those claims you just made, not one. PERIOD. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif Calling it the forum boner is not 'disrespecting' it, its speaking of the situation that has become the latest forum favorite 'buzz'. But if I use the term, you feel slighted because Im not giving the sub the respect it's due. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif Why would I be giving it this credit? From your word? As you said, Ive not owned one. You want to put things simple, I'll put it simple: defend the R all you want, Im not attacking it... I dont care. lol Even after I point out Im not attacking it and you are just being defensive, you still continue on. Now its abotu a respect thing. lol You want to make claims about RE's woofers like "not the right woofer in most apps" (that's a direct quote of yours from another thread tonight), but if I say the R is the forum boner, Im not showing it its "rightful respect". You are the one playing favorites here, not me.

As for the Ford versus Chevy analogy, like all analogies, it is not this situation, nor does it fit. The situation is SBLAZER trying to convince us that this guys ultimate fix is to use one brand and one brand only of sub. And you're here defending him because that brand/model happens to be the Type R. You are defending arguements not even waged against it. Your own words admit it once earlier, stating you dont care if that wasn't my point, because Id made the point some other time. Go fly off the handle at someone else, someone who cares.

explain to me how you are free to tell people to buy a woofer you have never touched, yet you think its bad that I tell people to buy a woofer with tried and true performance by ME thats within ANYONES price range?

First off, how do you know what I have and have not touched? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/naughty.gif.94359f346c0f1259df8038d60b41863e.gif lol
But seriously, show me where I suggested this guy buy ANY brand of sub in this thread. In your anger to defend your sub, you didn't notice that I never once told the guy to buy an SX. The closest I came was: "SX's are known for their output, and a 15" SX is no slouch, I would not assume just slamming a couple Type R's in there will make him happy" which is NOT me saying "Type R's **** balls buy an SX dude!!!11!". Its me saying don't assume any one speaker is the end-all be-all fix SBLAZER was (and now you aparently) are trying to make the R out to be. He owns the SX which he could have reconed to the 18 he was asking about. If you do not like him asking about SX's, take that up with the original poster. If you do not like people replying with suggestions that keeping the SX may be a good option.... well too bad. (not even what I suggested, but what you assume I did) That's YOUR problem with people liking an SX, not my problem with people liking Type R's. Ive even stated in this thread Im happy you and other people like them so much. That's not enough "rightful respect" for you or your sub, again too bad. That's something you and your sub will have to come to terms with. You need to get some perspective here. You do not get to demand we all speak about the Type R in a manner in which spkrman see's fit. If I make some sort of factual statement that is incorrect, by all means correct me. But do not attempt to tell me what I may reply to, or what my opinion of the situation may be.

Im not on your nuts spkrman, or the Type R's. So get off mine. Thanks.

 

[tommyk90 5,000+ posts]

Every thread audioholic....every thread you do the exact same thing.

You say that you are not "comparing" or "bashing" the type-r, but from the previous thread I can obviously tell you have a less-than-stellar opinion about them. You don't outright say it, but subconsciously you do. Just by the nature of your responses to these threads.

Many drop-in tests have proven that the type-r has outperformed the SX. I love RE just as much as you, but when i find a sub that costs half the price AND performs better, what am I supposed to do?

I think the guy just needs to pick up a type-r 15" and drop it in his box now. Hell, they don't cost that much off ebay, and if the guy knows any kind of people into stereos he could probably sell the type-r off to somebody in his area. I really think it's worth a shot.

If you aren't bashing the type-r, why don't you EVER recommend people to just try it out and see if it works? I've never seen you do that either.