i have some mb quart qm160 mids. one has a punctured surround and cracked cone. some hot glue and you wouldnt notice the surround. awesome mids just damaged //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gifsome 6 1/2 for the boat nothing special just good and cheap lol