Line Array Build Progress - **PICS**

[thylantyr 10+ year member]

I've heard a few systems in friends homes and one notable was a KEF/McIntosh system that sounded just plain boring to me.

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

As to your comment on "ignoring" placebo...Your belief that you or anyone with some set level of expirence that makes them cease to be a "noob" is immune to placebo is hard to accept. Scientifically, so little is known about it's exact workings, none of us here can argue for/against its existence, but my personal stance and expirence is that it is always present and influences impressions. Only when someone has heard their new reference (live music doesn't count //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif ) will they realize that their project is in need of an upgrade..... and we're ALWAYS upgrading.

I forgot that there are many people with lots of experience that are still

brashwashed by the placebo effect.. my bad .. I see this often in the electronics

forum, ie ... they say -> "I swapped out the opamps with betters ones and the SQ improvement was better.

There is alot of baloney in the electronics DIY forum from experience circuit designers, they fall prey to their upgrades and

make outrageous claims that they can't prove.

The difference between them and me -> If I upgrade, I tell you the real reasons

why -> "Because I want to" .. "Because I can" .. "Because I want more stored energy just because" .. "Because it looks cool" ... etc.

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

I've heard a few systems in friends homes and one notable was a KEF/McIntosh system that sounded just plain boring to me.
//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

As to your comment on "ignoring" placebo...Your belief that you or anyone with some set level of expirence that makes them cease to be a "noob" is immune to placebo is hard to accept. Scientifically, so little is known about it's exact workings, none of us here can argue for/against its existence, but my personal stance and expirence is that it is always present and influences impressions. Only when someone has heard their new reference (live music doesn't count //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif ) will they realize that their project is in need of an upgrade..... and we're ALWAYS upgrading.

I forgot that there are many people with lots of experience that are still

brashwashed by the placebo effect.. my bad .. I see this often in the electronics

forum, ie ... they say -> "I swapped out the opamps with betters ones and the SQ improvement was better.

There is alot of baloney in the electronics DIY forum from experience circuit designers, they fall prey to their upgrades and

make outrageous claims that they can't prove.

The difference between them and me -> If I upgrade, I tell you the real reasons

why -> "Because I want to" .. "Because I can" .. "Because I want more stored energy just because" .. "Because it looks cool" ... etc.

Did you neg me? Just wondering.

NG

 

[thylantyr 10+ year member]

Yeah thy...
If you're immune to the placebo, why do you insist on making a new thread everytime you do something new. It's just to get a reaction out of those reading it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif.

NG

Placebo in in audio is like swapping amps and claiming an SQ boost based on

the wrong reasons why you interpreted better SQ. It's usually a different reason

than people think.

 

[thylantyr 10+ year member]

It's all about toeing the line //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

ie, rotating cabinets like mine //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

... shhh

 

[thylantyr 10+ year member]

Maybe the mods should cleap up the thread to keep OP's thread lean for reference?

The thread took a weird curve.................................................. into oblivion..

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

Maybe the mods should cleap up the thread to keep OP's thread lean for reference?The thread took a weird curve.................................................. into oblivion..

Remember, this IS ca.com //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

lol.

NG

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

not Yoursoapbox.com LOL...

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

Maybe the mods should cleap up the thread to keep OP's thread lean for reference?The thread took a weird curve.................................................. into oblivion..

I wouldn't worry about that. There aren't too many threads on this forum that stay completely on topic.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[ballstothewall 10+ year member]

Woa, what is this "On Topic" thing that you speak of? I'm not familiar with it. Please teach the uninformed what "On Topic" means.

 

[thylantyr 10+ year member]

Remember, this IS ca.com //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
lol.

NG

With 388 posts, I don't think I have the ability to remember.

I'm a CAF regular, but I noticed this place needs more evil ....... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[brandontw 10+ year member]

wow, this thread went nuts, i think im going to bring it back to its roots, pics or the line arrays, i hope to have final pics next weekend, then i will post them and let this thread die.

A second line array is in the works, so i will need help, i might start a new thread....

 

[Beat_Dominator 5,000+ posts]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/woot.gif.aaa6090e619a97b6090d16dd863c5a69.gif

It's an open discussion format here, if you want to get on topic, lets discuss the Magaline vs. the grand reference......... TL with or without ribbons? +/- ????

 

[thylantyr 10+ year member]

Dali Megaline is cool for store bought. ~$40,000/pair, maybe more.

White paper here;

http://www.dali.dk/admin/filer/MegaLine%20WP.pdf

Modular design so you can stack them, pretty cool.

Active crossover system, pretty cool.

2 way with 6.5" midwoofers, ported {rear ports} and planar dipole ribbon

tweeters.

Someone I 'indirectly' know who is a audio salesman thinks the Megaline is

better than the Genesis 1.1 system which cost a bundle more. This person

also thinks a DIY'er can't match what these two systems offer and obviously,

I had to punish the guy for making that dumb claim //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[thylantyr 10+ year member]

Dali Megaline is cool for store bought. ~$40,000/pair, maybe more.

White paper here;

http://www.dali.dk/admin/filer/MegaLine%20WP.pdf

Modular design so you can stack them, pretty cool.

Active crossover system, pretty cool.

2 way with 6.5" midwoofers, ported {rear ports} and planar dipole ribbon

tweeters.

Someone I 'indirectly' know who is an audio salesman thinks the Megaline is

better than the Genesis 1.1 system which cost a bundle more. This person

also thinks a DIY'er can't match what these two systems offer and obviously,

I had to punish the guy for making that dumb claim //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[brandontw 10+ year member]

Well... Im gonna bring this thread back up and on topic once more. I was out at my dads to get my mail, so I took some pics of the unfinished, but fully operational line arrays. I guess my dad liked my speaks so much, he totally removed his B&W's for a while and replaced them with these, becasue it will be a while before i get out to stain and finish them. The B&W's used to be right where the line arrays are now, on stands.

Anyway:

Left:

Right:

Both:

Amp, Reciever and Cd Player:

Rear: