Lcd vs plasma.. What one to buy and why??

[rc10mike 10+ year member]

Plasma is key.

 

[bubbagumper6 5,000+ posts]

5ms is not bad? My Sammy has a 0.001ms response rate...

For those of you playing along at home, that's 5000x faster //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[bds0688 10+ year member]

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[bds0688 10+ year member]

Also, how is less than 4 amps on average maxing out an outlet?

http://reviews.cnet.com/green-tech/tv-consumption-chart/?tag=contentBody;nextPage

And of course California is trying to ban them. The state is overpopulated and most of that population knows nothing about nothing.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

Oh is that a fact? I guess thats why LCD shutter technology doesn't work? LOL

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

Also, how is less than 4 amps on average maxing out an outlet?
http://reviews.cnet.com/green-tech/tv-consumption-chart/?tag=contentBody;nextPage

And of course California is trying to ban them. The state is overpopulated and most of that population knows nothing about nothing.

HAHA Electricity isn't your strong suit. 4-5 amps Is ENORMOUS!

For example. If a living room has 4 outlets on a 15amp circuit. Giving you a total of 225 watts per plug. A 450watt TV (which is common for a Plasma) can max out that allocated outlet load with a single plug. Couple it with a sound system, and Xbox360 and I can scarcely plug in a lamp in my living room HAHAHA.

And i'm not done! Circuit ratings are not continuous, they are max. Meaning the continuous power a 15 amp circuit can safely handle is actually closer to 12 or 13 amps.

For a more realistic perspective. My apartment has 20+ outlets on 2 15 amp circuits. thats 1.5 amps per outlet. or 90watts per plug. for an equally distributed load.

 

[bubbagumper6 5,000+ posts]

HAHA Electricity isn't your strong suit. 4-5 amps Is ENORMOUS!
For example. If a living room has 4 outlets on a 15amp circuit. Giving you a total of 225 watts per plug. A 450watt TV (which is common for a Plasma) can max out that allocated outlet load with a single plug. Couple it with a sound system, and Xbox360 and I can scarcely plug in a lamp in my living room HAHAHA.

And i'm not done! Circuit ratings are not continuous, they are max. Meaning the continuous power a 15 amp circuit can safely handle is actually closer to 12 or 13 amps.

Did you even click that link? Some of the Plasma's used less power than the LCD's. Overall they were pretty much the same as far as I saw...

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

Did you even click that link? Some of the Plasma's used less power than the LCD's. Overall they were pretty much the same as far as I saw...

Are you braindead? The highest LCD power consumption was 277watts for a 47" by default and that dropped to 140 when calibrated.

There was a 46" plasma on that list that drew 454 watts. double the LCD. and many of them are in the 400-500 range. and that 55" visio uses 154

 

[bubbagumper6 5,000+ posts]

Are you braindead? The highest LCD power consumption was 277watts for a 47" by default and that dropped to 140 when calibrated.
There was a 46" plasma on that list that drew 454 watts. double the LCD. and many of them are in the 400-500 range. and that 55" visio uses 154

There was quite a few Plasmas that use less than 277watts...and why do you need to jump to insults? Your just reinforcing the fact that everyone thinks your a douche

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

There was quite a few Plasmas that use less than 277watts...and why do you need to jump to insults? Your just reinforcing the fact that everyone thinks your a douche

Didn't mean to get carried away but the data is clear. When calibrated, Only 3 out of the 30 plasmas on the list used less power than THE MOST power consuming LCD.

And some Plasmas used almost 5 times the power of a LCD with corresponding specifications and size.

 

[bds0688 10+ year member]

I know how circuits work. It's a draw, but not nearly the deal you're making it out to be.

 

[bds0688 10+ year member]

Oh is that a fact? I guess thats why LCD shutter technology doesn't work? LOL

What?

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

in a nutshell, this.. And to cotjones, who praises the 240 hz processing , you do realize your eys cant even differ anything above a 120 hz refresh rate right?

What?

That was meant to quote this.

Because a 60hz refresh rate is not compatible with stereoscopic technology. And even if it was the flicker would be so high you'd through your tv out the window.

A 120hz rate is the minimum and the difference between 120 and 240hz is phenomenal. at 240hz, The 3D source is almost indistinguishable in quality to a regular 2D source in 60hz. Which in the case of LCD shutter technology is AMAZING. Flicker is an inherent difficulty with lower refresh rates.

 

[hzsogood 5,000+ posts]

That was meant to quote this. Because a 60hz refresh rate is not compatible with stereoscopic technology. And even if it was the flicker would be so high you'd through your tv out the window.

A 120hz rate is the minimum and the difference between 120 and 240hz is phenomenal. at 240hz, The 3D source is almost indistinguishable in quality to a regular 2D source in 60hz. Which in the case of LCD shutter technology is AMAZING. Flicker is an inherent difficulty with lower refresh rates.

you must be inhuman, because there are medical facts that say the human eye can barely see 60 fps, none the less 120... The only thing a 240 hz set will do is interpolate a fake image that tricks the eye.. That is NOT what you would call great pan & scan.. Plasmas dont need high refresh rates due to the incredibly fast response times of .00001 ms or whatever it is.. THATS what makes the plasmas look better IMO for panning and motion judder and blur..

To each his own I guess, it seems like your buying into the 240 hz refresh rates just like the companies want you to.. IN 5 years are you gonna think the 960 hz LCDs are all that too?? there is just a point, when you have to realize a bigger # is not always better.. Ill take an ultra fast 60 hz plasma over a false imaged lcd anyday of the week

 

[rc10mike 10+ year member]

Let me say this from a gamer perspective:

Ive owned one of the highest end LCDs available now, the Samsung 55 B8000 series (the top 8500 has local dimming). When playing Ps3 I HAD to use Game Mode, which turns off all that special motion contol technology you pay all that extra money for. Even then I still had other issues. Which is why I returned TWO 55 8000's then exchanged for a Panasonic Plasma. Everything now looks amazing. NO issues what so ever.

EDIT: Forgot to say that when I use anything other than Game Mode on the Sam. LCD, I would get horrible input lag. So bad that you literally had to wait for the TV to respond to controller inputs...