Its funny to look at my first post

[massivespl]

Why would u buy a sundown 3.5k when I can buy a boss 5,000 watt for $100... Boss audio 4life, blew all my windows out and hit a 174db with 2 10s and a 15 for the lows.

Troll

 

[Boominburban 10+ year member]

They didn't have car audio forums when I started doing this. So I cant find my 1st noob question anywhere ....... You younger guys have such a wealth of knowledge right at your fingertips .....It's just awesome ....

 

[Jacobfllr]

You know a lot more than I do lol. Just getting into car audio and wanting to purchase my first sub and amp.

 

[massivespl]

They didn't have car audio forums when I started doing this. So I cant find my 1st noob question anywhere ....... You younger guys have such a wealth of knowledge right at your fingertips .....It's just awesome ....

It's so true. Anytime I wanna know something my phone is already in my hand lol so I google it. I remember back when I had to go to the local car audio and ask questions.

 

[n2audio 5,000+ posts]

History only goes back 1k posts. '09 for me. I was already well into my know-it-all phase //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/highhorse.gif.6bbb570c3f53dc0dcce8a2b8ad05cf11.gif

 

[WhiteYota]

I was dumb about car audio in the 90's and still am to. But even then I was capable of getting the sound I wanted through basic knowledge from a couple of CA&E magazines and experimentation with what I could afford. It's not really that hard to find satisfactory results for most anyone looking to upgrade over stock. It's only rocket science for the addicted geeks that got so caught up in car audio that they fantasize during the day about systems and continue to think they have to get 100% maximum output in a daily whilst bashing anything less. They only feel better knowing the caps in their amps are made of magnesium argentite infused polycarbonite that's powering subs with carbon fiber polyglass dust cap designed in some guy's garage and built by sad factory workers in China or over paid, lazy american workers in some small town USA purchased solely for bragging rights and envy from fellow addicts.
The more I learn, the more I realized that 160+db's @ 30hz isn't really what I want. It bothers other people, it loosens up bolts, draws unwanted attention or what have you and unless you're a douche you can hardly get much opportunity to turn up the volume and make use of it without taking the county scenic routes. I also learned the ratio's of getting top notch SQ from a car isn't worth the time, money and effort for my 38 yr old ears either. Which leaves me with knowing that most of the detailed knowledge and theories of audio were always going to go to waste for some like me anyway. In recent years I went from products like Sundown all the way back to the basics of a manufactures pre built system, that being a JL HO112.

So next should come some responses from all the butthurts that just now got offended or feel must defend. Dumb or not, I'm not afraid to put myself or my opinions out there unlike some here. No one is born with instant knowledge on anything but many sure do like to use their countless time in research against others to satisfy their own ego and feel intellectually superior over others. You see this in every forum on the internet but anonymity alone can make even the nicest, honest person do or say things they otherwise wouldn't. Then you have the grammar nazi's and trolls but that is a whole different mental illness altogether.

Hey I used to be one of those addicted geeks, lol

There was one magazine (I think it was a CA&E) that I remember that had a car with 24 band pro audio eq's in the floor covered with plexi, they were 120v but changed out the p/s for 12v. Blue neon all over, awesome looking.

Then there was a spl van with a wall of Cerwin Vega Strokers, I think they replaced the windshield with like 3" plexi but that might have been another van.

And then there was me, with my 2 Pioneers in what was about 1 cu single boxes powered by a RF 150a2. Learned so much from so many places. Never stop asking and learning I say

 

[The Camry]

It's so true. Anytime I wanna know something my phone is already in my hand lol so I google it. I remember back when I had to go to the local car audio and ask questions.

Tbh, 90% of the time i ask questions at my car audio store. I get stupid *** answers or a schmuck looking at me funny.

Asked them about panel resonance and sound deadening and he kinda just stood there like 0_o

 

[adulbrich 5,000+ posts]

Tbh, 90% of the time i ask questions at my car audio store. I get stupid *** answers or a schmuck looking at me funny.
Asked them about panel resonance and sound deadening and he kinda just stood there like 0_o

Yea, there's only one guy I know who works at a local shop and is knowledgeable. He was a serious SPL competitor though.

The other car audio shop in town is a bunch of idiots. Never heard of DD or Banda or anything underground. He said the treo subs they had would be an upgrade over my Z. Treo is the only good brand they have. The rest is garbage

Not saying all audio shop guys are idiots, just most of the ones I've met in person.

 

[NightScreams 10+ year member]

Yea, there's only one guy I know who works at a local shop and is knowledgeable. He was a serious SPL competitor though.
The other car audio shop in town is a bunch of idiots. Never heard of DD or Banda or anything underground. He said the treo subs they had would be an upgrade over my Z. Treo is the only good brand they have. The rest is garbage

Not saying all audio shop guys are idiots, just most of the ones I've met in person.

I suppose audio shops are no different than places like BestBuy. You hire some college kids to be floor guys and move some of your inventory, not enthusiasts that would probably just quit after a few weeks anyway once they realized their not going to get any employee discounts or something. Besides, enthusiasts do tend to be rather biased, sometimes against the very mainstream products the story probably sells anyhow. Just go to BB and ask a technical question about a computer...same results.

Second problem is. Average joe is a cheapass. Likely won't spend much if he has to pay for install so it's not like you need experts on audio science or anything. All the shops around my area completely died out. Now theres only 2 places within 100 miles to buy car audio. Walmart and Best Buy, both of which have more Navigation units for sale than they do audio systems.

 

[adulbrich 5,000+ posts]

I suppose audio shops are no different than places like BestBuy. You hire some college kids to be floor guys and move some of your inventory, not enthusiasts that would probably just quit after a few weeks anyway once they realized their not going to get any employee discounts or something. Besides, enthusiasts do tend to be rather biased, sometimes against the very mainstream products the story probably sells anyhow. Just go to BB and ask a technical question about a computer...same results.
Second problem is. Average joe is a cheapass. Likely won't spend much if he has to pay for install so it's not like you need experts on audio science or anything. All the shops around my area completely died out. Now theres only 2 places within 100 miles to buy car audio. Walmart and Best Buy, both of which have more Navigation units for sale than they do audio systems.

Yea, I couldn't recommend Kicker and Rockford stuff to people and wouldn't feel good about charging them thousands for a JL system that is only decently loud.

 

[The Camry]

Id just get a license to sell sundown,fi, zapco, ect instead of rockford/alpine and so on. Or sell both. Sell Rockford but recommend the hell out of underground mainstream companies and see if anyone bites.

 

[NightScreams 10+ year member]

I like RF's power line. some small, powerful amps and I like the idea of their built in clip detector for gain tuning. But the SD's and DD's line of stuff can still get pretty expensive too. I know DD had a 6.5" sub that was $200, saw an amp was $399 for 130watts x 4...doesn't seem THAT much cheaper than common brands...I mean I'm sure they are better in some way but I don't get the talk of cost when comparing cause their still not what I consider cheap and Sonixelectronics usually has decent prices on their mainstream brands.

 

[adulbrich 5,000+ posts]

I like Alpine headunits. Wouldn't put them with Rockford