Is TC Sounds Inc. done forever?

im not sayin that they will loose all value , just wondering who gonna try and dump them cheap if anyone.....

i guess im just wishin i could get a lms or similar cheap....lol.....

 
All these internet companys are going to hell. JL audio doenst sound so bad now do they? You pay a little more for a piece of mind.
I don't think you've read the thread.

TC didn't start out life as a direct-selling 'internet company". Far from it. They were an OEM to Eclipse, SVS, and others that probably "didn't sound so bad" to you.

 
But who did "New Coke" piss off? Their customers or supplier base?
Regardless of the fact that Coke enjoys the best brand-name recognition on the planet, pissing off some of your customers is forgiveable. There are always people that are bound to not like you and what you're doing.

But there are a finite amount of people in the world that make speaker parts - pissing off your suppliers is a much, much more dangerous game //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
Both actually. Some ingredients they are their own supplier so they can't really piss off themselves.

Fortunately, China doesn't like that type of control, as one could always buy their supplier if they didn't wanna play their game. But the again, the point is...companies can bounce back in new directions. Think of how profitable Sears is...and it isn't the customers, it's the investing opportunities the land provides. That is my question...what assets, if any, does TC have that a potentinal investor could leverage.

yeah now the rumors go flying, everyone jumps on the anti-tc bandwagon..typical of this forum
I wanted to buy a company. Hell, I tried to directly invest in one well known Internet company...my investment was not signifcant enough to get the control/information I wanted. I am always on the lookout for 'damaged goods'.

Back to the Coke thing, in one of the WalMart's here the Coke rep pissed off the WalMart manager and they stopped carrying Coke products for over a month, they lost a LOT of money in sales. It drove my business up (I work for Pepsi) but it's true, piss off one person in the chain and things can get pretty shitty for you.
Perhaps. At most major retailers, that would violate a contract...as shelf space is awarded on contract. IE coke pays wal-mart for special displays and stuff. I don't know enough details to make further comments on this isolated incident.

I wonder if coke ever got shipped "BACK TO CHINA" //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif
No, because Coke doesn't make Coca-Cola. The bottlers do. Coke owns some bottlers, but not all. Coke Bottling is separate from Coke.

Wal-Mart has the kind of clout that allows them to do that, hold their suppliers by the balls...they say go to RFID, and poof, it happens //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
TC could only wish for that kind of influence //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif
Can't wait til RFID is a reality. I have some long term investsments that look to fly if the technology ever really takes off. As for now, the stocks kinda sit there collecting dust, but that is what speculative investing is all about.

Sure you can. What do you think IBM does with its R&D budget? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif
The non-business guy is the only one that sees what I am after. I am pretty sure they license those patents to someone, somewhere. Who and how much they pay are quite important.

Well, Pepsi is better anyway.
yeah, sure //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif:rolleyes://content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

So, the chinese are the only ones that produce subwoofer parts?
No. Anyone can. Not everyone can as cheaply as the chinese.

I work for a wal-mart as well, we dropped coke for a month because they refused to send a vendor to stock it. Wal-Mart didnt lose a **** dime. Sales went down on pop, but pop is a negative markup item anyways.
This scenario would not work everywhere, especially in the south. And I'd be willing to be McDonald's sells more Coke than Wal-Mart.

 
All these internet companys are going to hell. JL audio doenst sound so bad now do they? You pay a little more for a piece of mind.
I do not understand this? What piece of mind does JL provide? It doesn't provide me any piece of mind more than my Q. If the Q hits the dust I'll throw in the trash. If a W7 hits the dust, I'll throw it in the trash... Me = //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

 
All these internet companys are going to hell. JL audio doenst sound so bad now do they? You pay a little more for a piece of mind.
jl will always sound like crap to me when i can get pallets full of blown jl's for 100 bucks...... but hey people buy the name not the product......

 
It's not him...
I don't think you understand. Say i came out with company Mo Big Moofas...they have a 75% failure rate on the first production run, they are forever known as being a turd.

Regardless if the next season i stepped up my QC and had a .5% failure rate on the new drivers, the brand name, and association of the brand name will forever be known as 'junk'.

The association with that name brand in china and the suppliers is that they do not pay their bills, don't do business with them. Regardless of who is owning and operating it...

He, that name is badass..."Mo Big Moofas".

How much to buy it off of you.

I can guarantee they are in deeper then 11k. You dont go bankrupt over 11,000$.

 
Dan lets start a speaker company with Mexican parts...exclusivly. Can you imagine the market we would open up in south texas and california? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
We could have them with red baskets, and green motors with white lettering. Oh wait, TC already did that //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif Shit cliff, we're screwed //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

No, because Coke doesn't make Coca-Cola. The bottlers do. Coke owns some bottlers, but not all. Coke Bottling is separate from Coke.
Oh flip my friend, you totally missed the joke on that one //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 
Oh flip my friend, you totally missed the joke on that one //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif
I realized it after I re-read through all the posts. I had my "literal" hat on.... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

In all honesty, how deep do you think they are in and what assets, if any do they have?

 
what about 11k to everyone of their suppliers it can add up fast...... and with the price tag they have im not suprised about the number of people using them....

$11k isn't much to buy a business with an array of patents and a building. But like I said about 4 times, what they actually have is the big question for potential investors.

 
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