Is it just me or...

JL might take the cake out of the big name car audio brands everyone knows about... But then again, that's not saying much
That's the problem, though. They basically got to where they are by clever marketing. Smart on the business end, but you end up screwed as the consumer into thinking there's no better alternatives.

 
The only plus to JL IMO is when you find someone selling it used on CL really cheap. Since everyone and their brother buys it, there's a decent supply of used products.. But even then people usually want too much for it

 
Everyone says JL's prices are nuts but shit look at HAT lol
You have a point there. I was feeling like hugging HAT's nuts until I started talking to people that actually owned them. If I can find a good deal on some used Clarus I might still give them a shot, though.

 
Id say Kicker is the biggest name out there... I've owned and heard several Kicker products and can say the SQ is pretty awful, though they get decently loud.
Some of Rockford's upper end offerings aren't bad and their amplifiers can chug out some clean power, but it's the same story as JL. Price point is still too high for what they have.

 
You have a point there. I was feeling like hugging HAT's nuts until I started talking to people that actually owned them. If I can find a good deal on some used Clarus I might still give them a shot, though.
Everyone talking to me about PHD is like thats pricey! Im like are you kidding me have you seen HAT, Hertz, Focal, Rainbows pricing?!

 
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